Fined in 19 seconds: Sutton motorist stung by CCTV car

Clips from the CCTV camera which caught Lorraine Brown in Sutton

Clips from the CCTV camera which caught Lorraine Brown in Sutton

Clips from the CCTV camera which caught Lorraine Brown in Sutton

First published in Sutton Exclusive by , Reporter

A motorist could have been given Sutton's fastest parking ticket after being fined after spending just nineteen seconds parked illegally.

It took parking enforcement officers in CCTV cars less time than world record holder Usain Bolt takes to run 200m to catch out this woman on Green Wrythe Lane, Sutton.

Lorraine Brown pulled onto the drop kerb outside her sisters house, as she always does, on January 5.

The pair had been out shopping and Ms Brown wanted to say a quick goodbye to her sister before returning to her house on Culvers Avenue, Sutton.

As the traffic was busy, Ms Brown decided against parking up on the street and instead let her sister out and rejoined the traffic.

From pulling up to driving away, clocks on the CCTV car cameras show 19 seconds - working out at nearly £3 a second.

The £55 parking parking ticket arrived on Ms Brown's doorstep a week later.

She said: " I thought, what the heck is this? I haven't parked anywhere illegally? There were no road markings?"

Ms Brown was shocked to find that it was as a result of dropping her sister off.

"This is ridiculous, I wasn't even parked. Its a very busy road, and there is absolutely no-way you could park there, you would have some very angry buses behind you."

Ms Brown has appealed the decision, which has initially been refused. If she can not argue her case to the satisfaction of Sutton Council, she could be hit with a £110 fine.

She said: "Its a good job we don't have a natter like we usually do when we say bye, we can be sat there a while. Oops, should I say that?"

Councillor Simon Wales, Transport spokesman for Sutton Council, said: “This isn’t about the length of time Mrs Brown stopped for - Green Wrythe Lane is a very busy road and pulling up onto the pavement like this is dangerous.

“Sutton Council takes a firm but fair approach to parking, and we issue one of the lowest numbers of parking tickets in London.

“In this case, there was a clearly marked parking bay further along the road which Mrs Brown could have used.”

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8:27am Thu 9 Feb 12

livinglocally says...

I feel for this lady, I really do. It must be so infuriating to get a ticket for stopping for 19 seconds when there are many worse offenders out there parking on red lines, on bus stops, without any consideration for other motorists.

But partly I am rather impressed with the parking officers. I drive down Green Wrythe Lane every day and it is such a busy road, someone parking like that can easily cause obstruction to traffic and cause an accident.

Speaking of Green Wrythe Lane, perhaps some tickets should be issued for shoppers at Nisa, who park on zig zag lines and double yellow, making it near impossible to get through - despite the obvious parking restricions there!
I feel for this lady, I really do. It must be so infuriating to get a ticket for stopping for 19 seconds when there are many worse offenders out there parking on red lines, on bus stops, without any consideration for other motorists. But partly I am rather impressed with the parking officers. I drive down Green Wrythe Lane every day and it is such a busy road, someone parking like that can easily cause obstruction to traffic and cause an accident. Speaking of Green Wrythe Lane, perhaps some tickets should be issued for shoppers at Nisa, who park on zig zag lines and double yellow, making it near impossible to get through - despite the obvious parking restricions there! livinglocally
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5:17pm Thu 9 Feb 12

Angela M says...

By this bizarre twisted logic, surely nobody residing on this road can park on their own driveway either? They would have to slow down to a crawl while they turn, and presumably pause in the road if a pedestrian is on the pavement.

So surely there must be thousands of accidents on this road every week?
By this bizarre twisted logic, surely nobody residing on this road can park on their own driveway either? They would have to slow down to a crawl while they turn, and presumably pause in the road if a pedestrian is on the pavement. So surely there must be thousands of accidents on this road every week? Angela M
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9:56pm Thu 9 Feb 12

PeterM says...

It might only be 19 seconds, but she was stopped on the pavement and that is an offence.

Harsh, but I'd let the penalty stand.
It might only be 19 seconds, but she was stopped on the pavement and that is an offence. Harsh, but I'd let the penalty stand. PeterM
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12:09am Fri 10 Feb 12

GR-London says...

Note the key words "drop kerb" which are usually there to facilitate vehicle access.

This lady did a sensible thing in pulling off the road, so not to cause an obstruction and safely deliver her passenger.
This is clearly nothing less than Sutton council extorting money out of people, it is disgusting and outrageous, those responsible should be sacked.

As for the CCTV parasite car, from what I remember, that has been seen parking illegally on a number of occasions.

To finish, don't hold me to this, check it out, but I seem to remember hearing that when a dropped kerb is installed, that part of the pavement becomes classed as part of 'The Highway' and you cannot be ticketed for parking on it. Worth checking out.
Note the key words "drop kerb" which are usually there to facilitate vehicle access. This lady did a sensible thing in pulling off the road, so not to cause an obstruction and safely deliver her passenger. This is clearly nothing less than Sutton council extorting money out of people, it is disgusting and outrageous, those responsible should be sacked. As for the CCTV parasite car, from what I remember, that has been seen parking illegally on a number of occasions. To finish, don't hold me to this, check it out, but I seem to remember hearing that when a dropped kerb is installed, that part of the pavement becomes classed as part of 'The Highway' and you cannot be ticketed for parking on it. Worth checking out. GR-London
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6:49am Fri 10 Feb 12

PeterM says...

GR-London wrote:
Note the key words "drop kerb" which are usually there to facilitate vehicle access.

This lady did a sensible thing in pulling off the road, so not to cause an obstruction and safely deliver her passenger.
This is clearly nothing less than Sutton council extorting money out of people, it is disgusting and outrageous, those responsible should be sacked.

As for the CCTV parasite car, from what I remember, that has been seen parking illegally on a number of occasions.

To finish, don't hold me to this, check it out, but I seem to remember hearing that when a dropped kerb is installed, that part of the pavement becomes classed as part of 'The Highway' and you cannot be ticketed for parking on it. Worth checking out.
You are right, it has been seen illegally parked whilst ticketing drivers. I have a video of it on my YouTube channel parked on a yellow line videoing a driver parked on the same yellow line.
[quote][p][bold]GR-London[/bold] wrote: Note the key words "drop kerb" which are usually there to facilitate vehicle access. This lady did a sensible thing in pulling off the road, so not to cause an obstruction and safely deliver her passenger. This is clearly nothing less than Sutton council extorting money out of people, it is disgusting and outrageous, those responsible should be sacked. As for the CCTV parasite car, from what I remember, that has been seen parking illegally on a number of occasions. To finish, don't hold me to this, check it out, but I seem to remember hearing that when a dropped kerb is installed, that part of the pavement becomes classed as part of 'The Highway' and you cannot be ticketed for parking on it. Worth checking out.[/p][/quote]You are right, it has been seen illegally parked whilst ticketing drivers. I have a video of it on my YouTube channel parked on a yellow line videoing a driver parked on the same yellow line. PeterM
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3:23pm Sat 11 Feb 12

Nick Foulger says...

I got a ticket a while ago at the end of Thornton Road opposite St Helier Hospital. I'd parked up on the kerb - like all the other cars on that side of the road, to avoid blocking the busy junction, but missed the obvious sign saying not to, so I have nothing to dispute.

However, I am annoyed as I was attending a medical appointment and was only away for around 40 minutes. I was fed up that a ticket was issued here - whilst I haven't seen a parking attendant outside the shops on Green Wrythe Lane for years. Cars illegaly park outside Nisa and the betting shop causing major congestion with impunity, even when legal spaces are available.

Why isn't parking enforced here, where it is a real problem?

Also, regarding this story, I live in a cul de sac off Culvers Avenue where visitors have to park on kerbs at the circular end of the road. Tickets are never given here (happily). Why don't the the parking attendants use their descretion on all occasions? The priority for patrols should be reducing congestion. At the moment, parking enforcement in Carshalton is a farce.
I got a ticket a while ago at the end of Thornton Road opposite St Helier Hospital. I'd parked up on the kerb - like all the other cars on that side of the road, to avoid blocking the busy junction, but missed the obvious sign saying not to, so I have nothing to dispute. However, I am annoyed as I was attending a medical appointment and was only away for around 40 minutes. I was fed up that a ticket was issued here - whilst I haven't seen a parking attendant outside the shops on Green Wrythe Lane for years. Cars illegaly park outside Nisa and the betting shop causing major congestion with impunity, even when legal spaces are available. Why isn't parking enforced here, where it is a real problem? Also, regarding this story, I live in a cul de sac off Culvers Avenue where visitors have to park on kerbs at the circular end of the road. Tickets are never given here (happily). Why don't the the parking attendants use their descretion on all occasions? The priority for patrols should be reducing congestion. At the moment, parking enforcement in Carshalton is a farce. Nick Foulger
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