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11:27am Thursday 8th May 2008

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If the words "neek", "goth", "rudeboi" and "emo kid" mean nothing to you then help is at hand in the form of an illustrated guide to teenage subcultures, written by a Sutton Young Enterprise group.

The Little Book of Big Stereotypes was written and illustrated by members of N-Devr, a Young Enterprise group made up of students from Sutton Grammar School for Boys, as a way of helping baffled adults understand the teenage cults they see around them.

“All you hear about in the news is teenagers getting ASBOs. We wanted to show that not all teenagers are yobs and that there are lots of different kinds of teenagers.”

Adam Avd El-Razzak, student at Sutton Grammar School

"We were extremely fed up with stereotypes of teenagers," said the company's operations director Adam Avd El-Razzak, who is 16.

"All you hear about in the news is teenagers getting ASBOs. We wanted to show that not all teenagers are yobs and that there are lots of different kinds of teenagers."

They describe goths as being "like Bruce Forsythe..they change and adapt with the times, evolving with society," and neeks as being "like ninjas, if you want to find them you have to know where to look." This has earned them a place in the south London Young Enterprise finals, having been successful at the Sutton and Merton finals. If they win at the next round, the London, national and even European finals beckon.

"We hope to bring the title back to Sutton. There hasn't been a winning group from Sutton for a few years," said Adam.

Business and enterprise teacher at the school Paul Denton said the group had impressed him.

"They have actually come together as a team. At the start the were lots of individuals but now they have come together to produce an excellent book," he said.

They have written it themselves and illustrated it themselves and are due to meet people at Waterstones in Sutton to see if they will stock it but I think bigger publishers would be interested too."

The book can be ordered online at artistsandsaboteurs.com. It costs £4.99 a copy.


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Carly, london says...
2:13pm Thu 8 May 08

Wow, as much as this is a good idea to educate adults on some terms used by youngsters, I dont think the terms are quite right.
A neek is basically a modern term geek, just said with an N not a G.
A goth, are the people who are into more dark things within society, death, rock sort of music etc. I mean, thats the best way I can describe them, haveing used these words myself.
Either way, good luck to them & hope they do well!

halle, sutton says...
9:36am Fri 9 May 08

as soon as adults begin to understand teenage slang- teenagers willl find new words to say! I am a teen and everyday I hear a newly invented word.. you just learn what it means once you've heard it enough. Ever thought that prehaps teenagers don't want adults to understand them?

carly, London says...
10:15am Fri 9 May 08

You know what I just thought, they probably dont know what the terms mean as they are the ones who get called the names?
Personally, & I dont mean to be rude, I would call these lot some of them names!!
Init Halle, We can just get new words, thats no probs, I mean seriously, it gets sad when your mum starts talking like you or sumin!!

Olly, Sutton says...
8:19pm Thu 15 May 08

I love it when people take things too seriously...

Jock, London says...
3:38am Wed 21 May 08

Carly wrote:
Wow, as much as this is a good idea to educate adults on some terms used by youngsters, I dont think the terms are quite right. A neek is basically a modern term geek, just said with an N not a G. A goth, are the people who are into more dark things within society, death, rock sort of music etc. I mean, thats the best way I can describe them, haveing used these words myself. Either way, good luck to them & hope they do well!
As a Goth (33 and proud of it!), I was going to add to the debate. Then I read "teenage subcultures".

Not my kind of Goth then, I'm of the Old School - the original, and best - we had The Cure, The Cult, Joy Division, March Violets, Field of the Nephilim,and Siouxsie as some of our influences. None of the Marilyn Manson or Cradle of Filth rubbish of more recent years. Although some of my peers have dabbled =/

True, some are into the "dark things" of society, but it depends on your aspect. I've studied Wicca and witchcraft -not to be confused with devil worship & satanic things, which are not my cup of tea.

More cultured Goths, like myself, embrace art, literature, and poetry. Many enjoy listening to classical music as much as "goth" music - although that's a bit of a loose term to use. Many also like all different kinds of metal.

Dress sense depends on the occasion for me. Clubwear for clubs(with maybe a smidgeon on eyeliner thrown on), casual in the day, and flamboyant period costume on special occasions. By the way, it's a myth that every item in a Goth's wardrobe is black.

Erm...I got a bit carried away there.

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