A secret recording in the back of a police van caught one of the Jamil Palmer murder suspects admitting they had ‘gone for violence’, the Old Bailey has heard.

Kishon Zelaya, 18, and four other underage defendants, one aged 15 (defendant A) two aged 16 (defendants B and C), and one aged 17 (D), all deny murdering the 18-year-old from Hampton.

Police taped the two 16-year-olds talking in the back of a police van.

In a recording boy B, who was the only one to give an interview to police, told boy C: “Our intention wasn’t going there for violence”, to which boy C said: “Yes, it was.”

Boy B then said: “Both of them sergeants said ‘I believe you are being honest’, you know why?

“Because I showed emotion and cried - they said I was being true.”

He was then told to “shush” because he was being “too loud”, the jury heard.

Earlier the teenager had told Detective Constable Paul Webb that Jamil Palmer told his friends he thought he was winded after a punch from a 17-year-old.

But in the back of the van, the other boy said: “Why would we run if someone was winded? Smells like bullshit.”

The first boy had told Det Con Webb that Mr Palmer went deep into Crane Park to avoid police. He claimed Mr Palmer told the 17-year-old, who allegedly stabbed him, “let’s get this shit cracking” before raising his fists.

The court heard in the interview defendant B claimed that Mr Palmer drew a knife as well as putting his hand in his pockets and threatening to shoot people.

In the formal interview he said: “The last punch [the 17-year-old] gave him, he was holding his chest straight away and was like ‘you winded me, you winded me'.

"I thought it was just a punch, I never realised it was a knife - he dropped to the floor and it was like he couldn't fight no more. He basically did the moonwalk backwards."

Boy B claimed he only went to the fight to support a friend, the 15-year-old defendant A.

After the fight, he claimed the four boys went to one of the defendant’s accommodation to smoke cannabis, where defendant D admitted stabbing Mr Palmer.

Defendant C told Det Con Webb: "[The 17-year-old] said after 45 minutes, ‘I stabbed him fam’.

“I said ‘get out, get out’ and made them leave.”

The trial continues.