The tamils were sympathetically allowed in to the country in the promise of a decent living. If they do not adhere to decency or can not reciprocate they should be deported back to Sri Lanka where they would be treated with just punishments.

sleep with dogs, get fleas. the price the UK pays for letting in tamil terrorists.

Shameful behavior of Tamils who have been given refuge, and a lesson for Britain for being soft on terrorism by Tamils in Sri Lanka. Britain should say: "Shape up or get out".

although i wouldnt go as far as calling these men/boys terrorists theya re the byproduct of Britians blind tollerance of the LTTE and its front organisations. I can still walk into a shop near my house that blatantly displays newpapers published by LTTE sypathisers glorfying suicide bombers etc. would it be tollereted if it was Al-Qaeda?
these kids have grown up in culture of people glorifyinf violence and advocating violence to achieve their goals it isnt a suprise how they've turned out

These Tamils have no value of human life and no respect to the peaceful society.
Why do we pay our tax money to feed these kinds of people?
These criminals need to be deported immediately to where they come from rather than letting them move freely while collecting funds to speared terrorism in the world.

Tamil Terrorism is a culture in its own, and the Western nations have never been able to understand it's lack of rhyme or reason for a long time. Even where the Sri Lankan tamil terrorism issue is concerned, the Western nations have always pushed for a 'negotiated settlement' with terrorists for whom absolute and random chaos carries the most reward. There can never be peace in Sri Lanka or safety in any other parts of the world as long as these tamil terrorists and thugs are allowed freedom that democracy provides to all. These guys need to be taken down hard, and fast.

For a long time I thought the tamils had legitimate grievences in Sri Lanka, until an extended stay there a couple of years ago opened my eyes to the realities that plague their nation. The country is a committed democracy,with all the flaws associated with a representative system of government.
The violence unleashed by the tamil gangs in England and elsewhere are just a microcosm of what they do in Sri Lanka under the guise of a freedom struggle. Their violence has no limits, and is aimed at anyone who dares disagree with their self-appointed leader who now claims to be God re-incarnate. Tamil terrorism is truly evil manifest in today's world and it needs to be stiooed at any cost before it touches our lives as it has, the Sri Lankans'. Nothing these tamils say should be believed, since their entire claims for an independent state are based on ethnic hatred, pure lies and a fabricated histyory. Most worrisom about my personal observations of this particular group is their inability to live in peace with anyone who dares disagree with their violent ways.

AMESTY INTERNATIONAL....PLE
ASE STAGE ONE MORE PROTEST ASKING UK TO FREE THESE TAMIL TERORISTS.

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Tamils will never live peacefuly in any where in the world this is all about Tamil terrorist they will never integrate with other people. UK must understand how Sri Lanka is facing now? They use women for human bombs not any other nation treat women such a way they do. I hope UK will learn the lesson nowÂ…this is no wonder why they are behaving like this ..be cause you donÂ’t know themÂ….there terrorist and barbarians Â….

U little idiot that wrote bad boyz 4 life get a life u looser! People like u hide at home and sleep on mummy's lap then write silly things. Look what happened at the end of teh day they took away a life then they cried like babies in court. What is the point to all this? Did they get in gang to make money, to show off to gals, to drive mad cars? well they won't get any of that in jail!!!

This should be a great lesson to anyone who wants to get into a gang cause it's totally useless and will ruin your life. The other two who didn't get a life sentence should be grateful and make something of their life and never be part of any gang **** anymore. If you take away a life you got to assume the circumstances. This is also what ahappens when you take drugs or anything like that.

Make something of your life and by the way they weren't all tamils.

Tamil people are known to be so clever but there is a minority of uneducated idiots who spoils our name!!!!

All Sri Lankans (Ceylonese) have been living in the UK for the past 60 odd years. Only the Tamil Sri Lankans who gained refugee status in the UK are commiting these crimes. Most crimes find their roots to the LTTE terrorists. We don't here of any Sinhalese or Muslim Sri Lankans involved with this type of violent crime (any kind of serious crime for that matter). What more evidence does the UK want to take tough action against terrorists operating within their borders? When would the BBC start calling a spade a spade and use the term "Terrorist" to describe the LTTE?

Look all these comments...In Every culture there some corrupted ones..exmplse "Mafias" what happen...u ppl saying all those cultures are corrupted..

Do any one of you know..that How many tamils are CEO of Many Large Companies In your own countries..Doctors, Surgents...All those thing you ppl don't see..
All you ppl knw are the corrupted ones..cuz u are one them too.........u live them to....thats why

This is typical of Jaffna tamils. They suffer from a victim/inferiority complex and feel the whole world is against them. Thus their response is mindless violence, whether it be in Sri Lanka, or as seen in Canada and now in the UK. Wherever they may go, they cannot live in peace or integrate. The law should come down hard on these violent thugs.

The Britain trusted and welcomed the criminals and murderers who ran away complaining that they were been mistreated back home. There were ofcourse innocents running away from trouble but more criminals fled the country looking for asylum pretending to be innocent. Britain protected and supprorted these terrorists to grow and kill innocents else where. They never felt the pain because it was not in Britain but in poor Sri Lanka they did all the barberic acts with the tax paid mostly by the hard earned money of British citizens. Now it's time to decide whose rights are important to Britain, the rights of the terrorists or the innocent peace loving law abiding citizens.

WHERE EVER TAMILS GO THEY MAKE A MESS

If you take Sri lankans you can put it in to three group Sinhalese, Tamils, muslims, And if you Take news Its always Sri Lankan Tamils that make the headline for bad reasons.

They dont know how to live with other people. They always fight for worng reason. Yes there are bad seeds in ever tree but just take the percentage of news event and you can see that what i mean

Violence is an embedded phenomenon in Tamil culture. If one were to watch a tamil Movie all what you will see are the bloodstained roadsides and people cutting and chopping each other.

Thank god Sri Lanka managed to get rid of this garbage.

the comments are really sad! are we being a human being when we comment on those matters related few! of course tamils are getting violent etc why? they are a lost society! i can some of those made the comments are just having a hateness! well i am praying for tamils to have their own country and build their values sooner than later! Suresh, Tamil, love of you all

The first victimes of any gangs in any comunities is the community it self...Tamil people will be the first to be delighted if we can get rid of tamil gangs.

Associating those gangs and tamil people , and thier genocide in SL , and teh freedom fight is an insult , and pure stupidity. Most of people commenting here are rasists and singalese anti tamil.
There should be some restrictions on this site...

Couldn't agree more with Athula from Dubai, good post mate.

The great British qualities such as tolerance of diversity and supporting the underdog have been taken for a ride by the post ’83 Tamil diaspora who mainly migrated for economic and terrorist reasons using the ethnic issues as a false excuse. I.e. They are bogus refugees who soon realised that by playing the ethnic card they could easily bend the hearts of unsuspecting British public. The same great British qualities were treated as weaknesses and deceitfully exploited by the post ’83 bogus Tamil refugees who had a far more cynical agenda in mind – to fund the LTTE to carry out bloodshed against anyone, Sinhalese or Tamil, who did not line up with their ideology. That ideology of the LTTE is similar to the Indian population of the UK (the largest non-European people group in the UK) demanding an independent state carved out of the British Isles covering the whole of Wales, Scotland and large parts of England too! Does that sound ridiculous? So it should. Britain wake up! Don’t allow yourselves to be taken for a ride by any kind of extremist Al-qaeda or LTTE. Don't allow your generosity to be taken against you. They have hoodwinked you long enough. Wise up.

British politicians welcomed this garbage in droves, just for the vote. Now the British people are beginning to get the smell. Its only the tip of the iceberg. Beware, British citizens may soon be on the hit list of tamil tigers who dare to raise their voice against these bloodthirsty goons.

Couldn't agree more with Athula from Dubai. The great British qualities such as tolerance of diversity and supporting the underdog have been taken for a ride by the post ’83 Tamil diaspora who mainly migrated for economic reasons using the ethnic issues as a false excuse. I.e. They are bogus refugees who soon realised that by playing the ethnic card they could easily bend the hearts of unsuspecting British public. The same great British qualities were treated as weaknesses and deceitfully exploited by the post ’83 bogus Tamil refugees who had a far more cynical agenda in mind – to fund LTTE to carry out bloodshed against anyone, Sinhalese or Tamil, who did not line up with their ideology. That ideology of the LTTE is similar to the Indian population of the UK (the largest non-European people group in the UK) demanding an independent state carved out of the British Isles covering the whole of Wales, Scotland and large parts of England too! Does that sound ridiculous? So it should. Britain wake up! Don’t allow yourselves to be taken for a ride by any kind of extremist Al-qaeda or LTTE. Don’t allow your generosity to be treated as a weakness. Britain wise up!

listan ya der s no point commanting in all the tamil ppl yh.... dats not right ppl who said dat....

Amnesty international (who doesen't comment against ltte's ruthless killings)will stand up to protect these thugs soon or later.

beagle wrote:
Shameful behavior of Tamils who have been given refuge, and a lesson for Britain for being soft on terrorism by Tamils in Sri Lanka. Britain should say: "Shape up or get out".

I have lived in Groydon 1974-1979; we had a good reputation as Ceylonese.
These violent gangs should be simply sent back to Sri lanka as soon as they get out of Brixton and black listed as undesireable to enter EU. No need for another chance.It will be like LTTE truce!
Gerard (born in (tamil)Kandana and old benedictine.

As the police say we know who they are and they are going around Croydon tooled up, so why exactly aren't the police stopping these people? answer; it's not on their agenda as long as there just fighting between themselves they are not bothered

This is a good lesson to Canada who entertained bogus Tamil refugees in thousands and started suffering the same in Scarborough area!!!!

All of u people out there complaining about tamilz being terrorist need to look at your own race. You cant say that muslims, whites and blacks are perfect. Tamils are not the only immigrants, all of you born in a different country and came to live in THE uk are immigrants so don't you dare complain about tamils being immigrants. Muslims hav no say in tamils being terrorists becoz dey known for being terrorists themselves. Don't sit there judging all tamils just becoz one or two are corrupted. Tamils do know the value of life and we know what peace is. You lot go and sort out the problems that your race is creating and than start talking about my race. You lot make a big fuss when tamils do something wrong and make it into a big deal even if it's a small things. You lot are jelous of tamils just becoz dey good at education, we're wealthy and we stick up 4 our culture. WE'RE PROUD TO BE TAMILS SO ALL YOU U LOT SITTIN THERE JUDGING TAMILS IN A BAD WAY CAN SHUT UR MOUTH BECOZ YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT US. EVERYTHING THAT SAID ON THE NEWSPAPER IS NOT THE TRUTH. LOVE ALL THE TAMILS OUT THERE..BIG UP TO TAMILS

Tamil's are, generally speaking, a bunch of ruthless thugs. You see them around tooting, in their terrorist front organisations, extorting money and floating their propaganda with impunity. These terrorsit scumbags bite the hand that feeds. The sooner the wanni is carpet bombed into extinction the sooner these ignorant goons will have to find other avenues for their violence. Removing the LTTE is the first step to breaking this disgraceful culture. I went to the LTTE controlled teritory once and it was scary - proper totalitarian culture, with no freedom of thought or expression. Forced conscriptions, child soldiers, cowardly suicide attacks against innocent civilians - all hallmarks of pathetic LTTE driven warfare within their deluded notion of victimhood. Britain should donate the military hardware required to defeat this mennace and let the Sri Lankan government put the rest of the world out of this LTTE misery, corruption and violence. LTTE do not want peace - they know no other language than violence. Amnesty International have got themselves in a bit of a muddle here. Whilst the Sri Lankan state is far from commendable, it is ill-informed to make a song and a dance about state treatment of journalists and media suppression without looking at the wider context and the barbarity of the group they are opposing. LTTE have aparently raised the conscription from 1 to 2 members per family recently in Wanni areas. What do Amnestry have to say about that??

ALL OF YOU IDIOTS OUT THERE CALLING TAMILS DOGS CAN GO AND LOOK AT YOUR FACES IN THE MIRROW AND YOU'LL KNOW HU THE REAL DOG IS. AND YOU TAMIL SINGALESE STOP ACTING ALL PERFECT AND INNOCENT BECOZ YOU LOT ARE VIOLENT IDIOTS WHO DRINK BLOOD EVERYDAY. YOU DO SOMETHING WRONG AND YOU BLAME IT ON SRILANKAN TAMILS SO OBVIOUSLI WE ARE GOING TO GET THE BLAME. DONT JUDGE US TAMILS BECOZ GOD KNOWS WHO'Z PERFECT AND WHO'Z THE REAL VIOLENT, TERRORISTS GROUP. DON'T FORGET THE FACT THAT THERES GANGS IN EVERY RACE.

TAMILS ARENT THUGS IT'S YOU LOT WHO ARE THE THUGS. YOU PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF CULTURE. YOU LOT SLEEP WITH A GIRL EVERYDAY AND YOU GET MARRIED TO ONE PERSON THEN YOU GET DIVORCED AND YOU GET MARRIED AGAIN. YEH THATS A PERFECT CULTURE INIT..YOU **** BASTARDS GO AND MIND YOUR OWN **** PROBLEMS..**** TRAMPS

British cannot do anything as they have rooted evrything. British they left Asia they devided India and Pakistan and created the problems. Then the British creted Sinhala Tamil issue and left Colombo. British hired thousands and thousands of tamil labors from South Indian in late 1860s by paying 14 cents a week to work in Ceylon and the grand children of these laborors now seeking their own state. Tamil refugees are a danger for any socity such as in Madras (south India)in Canada, in US and now in England. England ban the LTTE but the operations are still on openly and with the knowledge of the Bristish government. Why the Scotlandyard cannot arrest all the LTTE supporters and bring to justice just like Canadian investigators. The promoinent LTTE leaders and the main fund raisors and the biggest sypathisers all are living in England only. I beleive untill the Briotish government take an initiative other international communities will not look into this major disaster of terrorism inevented by LTTE and is guaranteed linked with Al Quaida. LTTE is the inventors of killers, murderers, rapists, they start with young children no matter what age are they and they trained them by force, send them to guard front line use them as human sheild, use and force females as killers. LTTE cannot come face to face. LTTE cannot fight directly with armed foces. They win by killing innocent civilians. LTTE are barberians.

'Tamil Voice' of Eastham exemplifies the level of discourse amongst supporters of the Tamil Tiger terrorists. Ouch, ouch, ouch!!!

tharis wrote:
The first victimes of any gangs in any comunities is the community it self...Tamil people will be the first to be delighted if we can get rid of tamil gangs. Associating those gangs and tamil people , and thier genocide in SL , and teh freedom fight is an insult , and pure stupidity. Most of people commenting here are rasists and singalese anti tamil. There should be some restrictions on this site... There should be some restrictions on this site... Haha tharis.

How typical of a Tamil wanting censorship, just like in the Tamil controlled Wanni Free State right?
Can't take the bad news or criticism so in that instant you demand censorships. Isn't it funny how you use freedom of speech to spread your propaganda to get bogus refugee status in Western countries, yet the moment someone questions your "victim" status and starts posting/mentioning the violent nature of Tamils as well as exposing and busting your lies and propaganda you demand censorship.

On so many forums run by Tamils on different sites where they are crying "genocide", "discrimination" and "human rights" they enforce strict censorship. The moment someone posts something contrary to these sob stories (most of which are false) the posts are deleted and that individual is banned.
Don't fall for Tamil lies, propaganda and misrepresentations or exaggerations. At a drop of a hat they play the "discrimination" card coupled with the race card, throwing in the "genocide" card all of which eventually leads to the "victim" card which people in the West easily fall for.

Deception and violence is a way of life for them. If you've ever been to Tamil ONLY North and East of Sri Lanka -Tamil ONLYness achieved after they ethnically cleansed these two provenances of non-Tamils (at the same time they were yelling "discrimination" and scurrying off to Western countries) Tamil Nadu in India (home to 60 million Tamils and the word Nadu means Country, i.e. Tamil Country - the actual Tamil homeland) as well as Malaysia you can see the shocking violence and even sexually orientated crimes they commit against EACH OTHER what chance in hell do non-Tamil have? These people after all do not care for their OWN Children, they have no problem sending their own kids over minefields and sending money (money "earned" in Western countries through theft and abuse of social benefit systems) to keep the war going in Sri Lanka, keep it going long enough for them to get their new passports.
They are the same people who committed the Kent and Dollar Farm massacre in Sri Lanka where they surrounded Sinhala farming villages, the females took Sinhala infants out of the hands of their screaming moths, picked them up by their legs and smashed their heads against the walls and trees till their brains came out. The Tamil males after forcing the parents to watch their brutal murder of their children raped the mothers before hacking them to pieces with machetes and then subjected the Sinhala men/fathers to an AK-47 bullet rain.

Then what happened? These people run off for "retirement" in Western countries (namely Canada and Britain) spreading the usual tales of "discrimination" and "genocide". And the West tells the Sinhalese to "talk peace" while scratching their heads wondering why Tamils are having massive fights on the streets of Toronto, London and Oslo.

I have read these comments regarding tamils, i would like to point out that not all Tamils are rebels and are very educated there are certain people whom cause problems and this applies to all communties in every part of the world. I am disgraced by comments being made that tamils are like dogs and that comments about the LTTE have been raised. May i point out that these members of gangs have not been brought up or have been apart of the LTTE, please have your facts and prove before comments are made

channa wrote:
The tamils were sympathetically allowed in to the country in the promise of a decent living. If they do not adhere to decency or can not reciprocate they should be deported back to Sri Lanka where they would be treated with just punishments.

No keep them inside UK. Sri Lanka dont need this troubled people. Let them live in UK, who originally brought the problems in the country.

i would like to point out another comment that tamils are one of the most educated out of a lot of people our children do best at schools, and university. but our children have balls unlike some others they stand there ground and make an efforts in the outside world and in the classrooms

The Tamil Tigers trafficked Tamil 'refugees' to the West by hoodwinking gullible governments. These so-called refugees were sent to bankroll the 'fight'. Those that did not play along needed 'treatment', hence the thugs. Now the culture of violence and intimidation has been normalized in Sri Lankan-Tamil communities in the 'West'. Croydon's pains are well known here in Toronto. Deport those who abuse the hospitality of host nations is what I say.

What a mess; the article, the comments! It's wrong to racially profile this as 'Tamil gang violence' although some Tamils are involved. There are many peace-loving, law abiding Tamils, like any other ethnicity. There are violent gangs in every ethnicity. Racial profiling will only lead to further discrimination, further marginalisation and will re-produce violence. Take actions to curb violence, and at the same time look at the social, political historical contexts in which violence has come from. It's wrong for the "Tamil Voice' to express his/her anger at the English culture in that way. It is in the same way wrong for others to despise all Tamils because these youths are violent. Aren't your school kids turning into similar violent acts? WHY? Why aren't they racially profiled? We all have to be honest, peaceful from within and accepting if we are to find solutions. Solutions also lie in social political contexts, certainly not within the present mode of intense market-based Capitalism!!!

I THINK WE DONE A BIGEST MISTAKE TAKING ALL THIS GARBADGE LIKE TAMILS TO OUR COUNTRY, ONE DAY THAY WILL ASK A PART OF ENGLAND LIKE EASTHAM. PLEASE GOVERMENT OPEN YOUR EYSE HAVE A LOOK WHAT THAY DOING TO SRI LANKA

One more thing- the recent bomb blasts specifically targeting Sinhalese and no one else (genocide as according to Tamil logic?), were planted by Tamil students attending the local schools/university in the area. Hilarious stuff.
They get free education (in Sri Lanka education from kindergarten to University is free since 1948) provided for by the "Sinhala dominated Government" (as their propaganda usually blasts out to the West, strange that because Sinhalese make up 80% of the population, so who else is going to "dominate" the Government?) and Sinhala Tax Payer (Tamils don't pay Tax because they are a "minority" and a "discriminated" one at that) yet they happily kill Sinhalese as a thankyou, what an ungrateful lot.
Would the West tolerate some minority doing that? Taking full advantage of the institutions and freedoms you provide to only have them kill you in return?
Tamils do this all the time and use the deaths of Sinhalese to run off to some Western country (were any job pays a 1000x more than in Sri Lanka as after all Lanka is a third world country) yelling "discrimination" and once they arrive immediately they start funding the war, paying for bombs so more of them can emigrate and kill Sinhalese in the process –two birds with one stone!

FOR ALL TAMILS
PACK YOUR THINGS ITS TIME TO GOBACK WHERE YOU COM FROM, BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE DOGS,CREDIT CART THIVES AND MAINLY YOU ALL ARE LTTE DONT FORGET YOUR ALL HAVE I SKIN

TO DEAR TAMIL VOICE EASTHAM

THIS IS TAMIL CAULTURE

1.STELLING MONEY FROM CREDIT CARDS
2.DEPANDING ON BRITISH TAX PAYES MONEY.
3.CLAIMING REFEUGY ALLOVER THE WORLD
4.SPREADING TERRARISM IN SRI LANKA AND HEAR

WHAT A SHAMELESS EDITOS

Here are some interesting facts from the Sri Lanka Census of 1981 dealing with the % of Tamils in the professions (12.6% of Sri Lanka's population in '81 were Tamil):

Physicians & Surgeons, 35.1%

Dentists, 24.7%

Veterinarians, 38.8%

Engineers, 34.9%

Land surveyors, 29.9%

Engineering technicians, 24.3%

Survey draughtsmen, 27.8%

Public Sector Administrators, 15.9%

and so it goes...

I quote these figures because post-1983 Sri Lankan-Tamils flooded the West carrying blood curdling tales of job discrimination and other heartbreaking complaints as a way of greasing their way into better economic circumstances. The Tamil Tigers charged fees up front to transport the bogus refugees, then sent in goons to relieve these fortunates of their pounds, dollars, and euros.

The Tamil Tiger con-job goes on today and, now that the Sri Lankan Government has them nearly cornered, is using 'human rights violations' by the government to press gullible Westerners to punish Sri Lanka and get it to back off. As a Tamil I am fed up of being used as bait by the rapacious Mr. Prabhakaran. I do not want Eelam --- the Sinhalese majority have treated us with relative generosity --- I just want an end to the mindless terrorist killings and I want a start to a peaceful solution.

Rajive gandhi slept with LTTE and ended up in Heven.Gorden Brown is sleeping with LTTE and will see hell

TO DEAR DARREN
THIS IS THE CULTURE OF MANY RACE

1.STELLING MONEY FROM CREDIT CARDS
2.DEPANDING ON BRITISH TAX PAYES MONEY.
3.CLAIMING REFEUGY ALLOVER THE WORLD
4.SPREADING TERRARISM

WHAT A SHAMELESS IDIOTS

TAMIL VOICE wrote:
TAMILS ARENT THUGS IT'S YOU LOT WHO ARE THE THUGS. YOU PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF CULTURE. YOU LOT SLEEP WITH A GIRL EVERYDAY AND YOU GET MARRIED TO ONE PERSON THEN YOU GET DIVORCED AND YOU GET MARRIED AGAIN. YEH THATS A PERFECT CULTURE INIT..YOU **** BASTARDS GO AND MIND YOUR OWN **** PROBLEMS..**** TRAMPS

Wow, just proof of how greatful Tamils are. This is what they think of the West and its people.

A. Chinnaswamy wrote:
Here are some interesting facts from the Sri Lanka Census of 1981 dealing with the % of Tamils in the professions (12.6% of Sri Lanka\'s population in \'81 were Tamil): Physicians & Surgeons, 35.1% Dentists, 24.7% Veterinarians, 38.8% Engineers, 34.9% Land surveyors, 29.9% Engineering technicians, 24.3% Survey draughtsmen, 27.8% Public Sector Administrators, 15.9% and so it goes... I quote these figures because post-1983 Sri Lankan-Tamils flooded the West carrying blood curdling tales of job discrimination and other heartbreaking complaints as a way of greasing their way into better economic circumstances. The Tamil Tigers charged fees up front to transport the bogus refugees, then sent in goons to relieve these fortunates of their pounds, dollars, and euros. The Tamil Tiger con-job goes on today and, now that the Sri Lankan Government has them nearly cornered, is using \'human rights violations\' by the government to press gullible Westerners to punish Sri Lanka and get it to back off. As a Tamil I am fed up of being used as bait by the rapacious Mr. Prabhakaran. I do not want Eelam --- the Sinhalese majority have treated us with relative generosity --- I just want an end to the mindless terrorist killings and I want a start to a peaceful solution.

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I totall agree with Chinnaswamy. I had 8 tamil classmates out of 35 in my school in Colombo and are still the friends in touch. Those who beleive that that the tamils are discreminated are bullshitting.
There are 20,000 tamils refugees who arrived from Srilanka but orginated from India are now in Madras (S.India) without any documents and are seeking citizenships from colombo government who is willing to grant srilankan citizenships.
This is what goes arround comes arround. Hope these refugees of original south indians will not claim for a seperate state after obtaining srilankan citizenships.
As Chinnaswamy beleives and yes there are thousands of qualified proffesionals of Tamils in all over Srilanka who obtained etter education from the Srilankan government and are employed in Govt. sector. But they are force to obay LTTE rules and support finacially or else they be killed by LTTE. Qualified Tamil politicians who are living with other ethnics in Srilanka are being eliminated by LTTE very often as there are no qualified politicians amongst LTTE.
Chinnaswamy, as a Sinhalese my hats off to your comments and details those you provided. Be carefull while living in Toronto as I know there are threats to Tamils living in Canada those doesn't support LTTE.

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well said Dias...bravo Posted by: Dias on 6:31pm today
tharis wrote: The first victimes of any gangs in any comunities is the community it self...Tamil people will be the first to be delighted if we can get rid of tamil gangs. Associating those gangs and tamil people , and thier genocide in SL , and teh freedom fight is an insult , and pure stupidity. Most of people commenting here are rasists and singalese anti tamil. There should be some restrictions on this site... There should be some restrictions on this site... Haha tharis. How typical of a Tamil wanting censorship, just like in the Tamil controlled Wanni Free State right? Can't take the bad news or criticism so in that instant you demand censorships. Isn't it funny how you use freedom of speech to spread your propaganda to get bogus refugee status in Western countries, yet the moment someone questions your "victim" status and starts posting/mentioning the violent nature of Tamils as well as exposing and busting your lies and propaganda you demand censorship. On so many forums run by Tamils on different sites where they are crying "genocide", "discrimination" and "human rights" they enforce strict censorship. The moment someone posts something contrary to these sob stories (most of which are false) the posts are deleted and that individual is banned. Don't fall for Tamil lies, propaganda and misrepresentations or exaggerations. At a drop of a hat they play the "discrimination" card coupled with the race card, throwing in the "genocide" card all of which eventually leads to the "victim" card which people in the West easily fall for. Deception and violence is a way of life for them. If you've ever been to Tamil ONLY North and East of Sri Lanka -Tamil ONLYness achieved after they ethnically cleansed these two provenances of non-Tamils (at the same time they were yelling "discrimination" and scurrying off to Western countries) Tamil Nadu in India (home to 60 million Tamils and the word Nadu means Country, i.e. Tamil Country - the actual Tamil homeland) as well as Malaysia you can see the shocking violence and even sexually orientated crimes they commit against EACH OTHER what chance in hell do non-Tamil have? These people after all do not care for their OWN Children, they have no problem sending their own kids over minefields and sending money (money "earned" in Western countries through theft and abuse of social benefit systems) to keep the war going in Sri Lanka, keep it going long enough for them to get their new passports. They are the same people who committed the Kent and Dollar Farm massacre in Sri Lanka where they surrounded Sinhala farming villages, the females took Sinhala infants out of the hands of their screaming moths, picked them up by their legs and smashed their heads against the walls and trees till their brains came out. The Tamil males after forcing the parents to watch their brutal murder of their children raped the mothers before hacking them to pieces with machetes and then subjected the Sinhala men/fathers to an AK-47 bullet rain. Then what happened? These people run off for "retirement" in Western countries (namely Canada and Britain) spreading the usual tales of "discrimination" and "genocide". And the West tells the Sinhalese to "talk peace" while scratching their heads wondering why Tamils are having massive fights on the streets of Toronto, London and Oslo.
tharis wrote:
The first victimes of any gangs in any comunities is the community it self...Tamil people will be the first to be delighted if we can get rid of tamil gangs. Associating those gangs and tamil people , and thier genocide in SL , and teh freedom fight is an insult , and pure stupidity. Most of people commenting here are rasists and singalese anti tamil. There should be some restrictions on this site... There should be some restrictions on this site... Haha tharis.

How typical of a Tamil wanting censorship, just like in the Tamil controlled Wanni Free State right?
Can't take the bad news or criticism so in that instant you demand censorships. Isn't it funny how you use freedom of speech to spread your propaganda to get bogus refugee status in Western countries, yet the moment someone questions your "victim" status and starts posting/mentioning the violent nature of Tamils as well as exposing and busting your lies and propaganda you demand censorship.

On so many forums run by Tamils on different sites where they are crying "genocide", "discrimination" and "human rights" they enforce strict censorship. The moment someone posts something contrary to these sob stories (most of which are false) the posts are deleted and that individual is banned.
Don't fall for Tamil lies, propaganda and misrepresentations or exaggerations. At a drop of a hat they play the "discrimination" card coupled with the race card, throwing in the "genocide" card all of which eventually leads to the "victim" card which people in the West easily fall for.

Deception and violence is a way of life for them. If you've ever been to Tamil ONLY North and East of Sri Lanka -Tamil ONLYness achieved after they ethnically cleansed these two provenances of non-Tamils (at the same time they were yelling "discrimination" and scurrying off to Western countries) Tamil Nadu in India (home to 60 million Tamils and the word Nadu means Country, i.e. Tamil Country - the actual Tamil homeland) as well as Malaysia you can see the shocking violence and even sexually orientated crimes they commit against EACH OTHER what chance in hell do non-Tamil have? These people after all do not care for their OWN Children, they have no problem sending their own kids over minefields and sending money (money "earned" in Western countries through theft and abuse of social benefit systems) to keep the war going in Sri Lanka, keep it going long enough for them to get their new passports.
They are the same people who committed the Kent and Dollar Farm massacre in Sri Lanka where they surrounded Sinhala farming villages, the females took Sinhala infants out of the hands of their screaming moths, picked them up by their legs and smashed their heads against the walls and trees till their brains came out. The Tamil males after forcing the parents to watch their brutal murder of their children raped the mothers before hacking them to pieces with machetes and then subjected the Sinhala men/fathers to an AK-47 bullet rain.

Then what happened? These people run off for "retirement" in Western countries (namely Canada and Britain) spreading the usual tales of "discrimination" and "genocide". And the West tells the Sinhalese to "talk peace" while scratching their heads wondering why Tamils are having massive fights on the streets of Toronto, London and Oslo.

Well, well, well, where is this discussion heading towards now?! I see lots of anger and hatred! No one is fool-proof here, including myself. Let's accept that first. The “TAMIL VOICE” criticises English culture, but what about our own Sri Lankan (both Sinhalese and Tamil) cultures? Males happily expect huge dowries from their brides! How many of poor females cannot marry just because they don't have enough money for dowries? What about the expectation that all females should be ‘virgins’ before marriage? What about the custom that all the relations including the bridegroom expecting the bride to prove her virginity on the first night? What about the caste system that classifies one’s “nobility” by birth? Isn’t that so demeaning to humanity?! Let us self-cleanse ourselves first, before pointing fingers at other cultures! This doesn't mean to trivialise our own cultures however! Western culture too like any other has its good and bad points. Cultures are only DIFFERENT, not one culture is superior to another.

On the main issue of 'gang violence' and the Tamil youth caught up in it, what can the society do about it? Let's talk about remedial measures! Already innocent Muslims suffer by racial hatred. Do we want that aimed at Tamils at this point? Others who say ‘hurray’ wait until it comes back to you in one way other other!

For those who ask all the "Tamils to go back home" should also realise all the 'dirty work' ethnic minorities do to keep the whole economy running! Who will do all the odd jobs, risky, low-waged jobs if they leave? After all no country just welcome immigrants if they are not of any economic interest! Let's acknowledge the potentials of humanity and not brand them just by some acts of individuals or groups!

On the Sri Lankan issue: it is very sad to see that the Tamils today have two fights at the same time: One with the majoritarian Sri Lankan govt and the other with the ruthless, totalitarian Tamil Tigers! I was born and bred as a Sinhalese. How many of us Sinhalese forget about the long sufferings of Tamil people, their right to equal treatment? What social, political factors led Tamils to flee the country? How many times did ethnic violence occur in Sri Lanka and how many Tamils (mainly) suffered by that? Who were behind such brutal acts? Hence, who fuelled, who supported Prabakaran in real sense?! When peaceful Tamil protests were treated with violence again and again they were drifted into an armed struggle, although now it has transformed itself into an eternal killing machine.

Someone points out figures, claiming himself to be a Tamil... yes, when there is biased treatment that can boomerang. The British High Commissioner in Sri Lanka recently admitted the 'divide and rule policy' the Colonial British rulers adopted and said that it may have favoured Tamils. We Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims should see what it means to us as a society, rather than just singling out what it has produced.

How many Sinhalese think that Sri Lanka is a 'pure Sinhalese Buddhist Country'? How many Tamils think there is a "traditional homeland" in a demarcated territory? ArenÂ’t some Muslims in Sri Lanka following the same suit? Isn't this a vicious cycle that will have no ends other than endless, brutal killing? How many of us have forgotten that the super-rich in all our communities happily carry on with their lives by instigating hatred among us the poor?!

Isn't this common all over the world that poor is set to fight against poor while the rich happily thrives upon the division of the poor? Some people are talking about their ‘tax money’!!! Can you simplify all the social injustice, systemic inequality, into monetary terms? Everybody has the right to raise their voice but I am rather disturbed by some of the comments posted here. When can we foresee a better world better England, Better Sri Lanka? Let us not forget, ‘NO ONE IS FREE UNTIL WE ALL ARE FREE!!!’

@all my Sinhala neighbours

The word "Tamil" is enough to link anything regarding "Tamil" to the LTTE or even terrorism. We know that you are not necessarily educated (Britain knows that as well), but these kind of assumptions are just sick. Bring the evidence and do not tell intellectual deficiency. Embarrassing!

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Ranjith wrote:
Well, well, well, where is this discussion heading towards now?! I see lots of anger and hatred! No one is fool-proof here, including myself. Let\'s accept that first. The “TAMIL VOICE” criticises English culture, but what about our own Sri Lankan (both Sinhalese and Tamil) cultures? Males happily expect huge dowries from their brides! How many of poor females cannot marry just because they don\'t have enough money for dowries? What about the expectation that all females should be ‘virgins’ before marriage? What about the custom that all the relations including the bridegroom expecting the bride to prove her virginity on the first night? What about the caste system that classifies one’s “nobility” by birth? Isn’t that so demeaning to humanity?! Let us self-cleanse ourselves first, before pointing fingers at other cultures! This doesn\'t mean to trivialise our own cultures however! Western culture too like any other has its good and bad points. Cultures are only DIFFERENT, not one culture is superior to another. On the main issue of \'gang violence\' and the Tamil youth caught up in it, what can the society do about it? Let\'s talk about remedial measures! Already innocent Muslims suffer by racial hatred. Do we want that aimed at Tamils at this point? Others who say ‘hurray’ wait until it comes back to you in one way other other! For those who ask all the \"Tamils to go back home\" should also realise all the \'dirty work\' ethnic minorities do to keep the whole economy running! Who will do all the odd jobs, risky, low-waged jobs if they leave? After all no country just welcome immigrants if they are not of any economic interest! Let\'s acknowledge the potentials of humanity and not brand them just by some acts of individuals or groups! On the Sri Lankan issue: it is very sad to see that the Tamils today have two fights at the same time: One with the majoritarian Sri Lankan govt and the other with the ruthless, totalitarian Tamil Tigers! I was born and bred as a Sinhalese. How many of us Sinhalese forget about the long sufferings of Tamil people, their right to equal treatment? What social, political factors led Tamils to flee the country? How many times did ethnic violence occur in Sri Lanka and how many Tamils (mainly) suffered by that? Who were behind such brutal acts? Hence, who fuelled, who supported Prabakaran in real sense?! When peaceful Tamil protests were treated with violence again and again they were drifted into an armed struggle, although now it has transformed itself into an eternal killing machine. Someone points out figures, claiming himself to be a Tamil... yes, when there is biased treatment that can boomerang. The British High Commissioner in Sri Lanka recently admitted the \'divide and rule policy\' the Colonial British rulers adopted and said that it may have favoured Tamils. We Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims should see what it means to us as a society, rather than just singling out what it has produced. How many Sinhalese think that Sri Lanka is a \'pure Sinhalese Buddhist Country\'? How many Tamils think there is a \"traditional homeland\" in a demarcated territory? Aren’t some Muslims in Sri Lanka following the same suit? Isn\'t this a vicious cycle that will have no ends other than endless, brutal killing? How many of us have forgotten that the super-rich in all our communities happily carry on with their lives by instigating hatred among us the poor?! Isn\'t this common all over the world that poor is set to fight against poor while the rich happily thrives upon the division of the poor? Some people are talking about their ‘tax money’!!! Can you simplify all the social injustice, systemic inequality, into monetary terms? Everybody has the right to raise their voice but I am rather disturbed by some of the comments posted here. When can we foresee a better world better England, Better Sri Lanka? Let us not forget, ‘NO ONE IS FREE UNTIL WE ALL ARE FREE!!!’

Males happily expect huge dowries from their brides! How many of poor females cannot marry just because they don't have enough money for dowries? What about the expectation that all females should be ‘virgins’ before marriage? What about the custom that all the relations including the bridegroom expecting the bride to prove her virginity on the first night? What about the caste system that classifies one’s “nobility” by birth? Isn’t that so demeaning to humanity?!

What kind of crap is this Ranjith? Your mix bashing different Asian cultures/practices into one. Speaks volumes itself.
Besides Caste-ism and dowries applies to Tamils not Sinhalese.
High Caste Tamil doctors refused to treat the ultra low caste Plantation Tamils, they also banned them from entering Hindu Temples. It was the Sinhalese doctors who would go out to treat the Plantation Tamils and it was the Buddhists who let them into Buddhist Temples to pray. Since ancient times 20% of a Buddhist temple is demarcated as a Hindu Kovil. Hindus can walk in and pray as and when they want. Just like when the Protestant Dutch started killing the Catholics, it was again the Buddhist who let them into their temples to pray to their God. Ironic considering that a 100 years earlier the Catholics were massacring the Buddhists for being evil heathens. Can a Buddhist walk into a Hindu Kovil, a Churh or a Mosque and carry out Buddhist activity? The answer is a thumping "NO", and to do so would be "discrimination" or "Chauvinistic Buddhist Hegemony"

Dowry practise does not happen amongst Sinhalese or the High Caste Tamils either (as they only marry into their high caste). As for this "virgin bride" thats Islamic, so probably does occur for the Muslim Tamil speaks and Muslim Sinhalese.

Whats also strange is to see Tamil propaganda of today where they shed tears upon tears for the disenfranchisement of the Plantation Tamils – who they treat worse than wild animals as per the Tamil caste system. Tamil propaganda of course spins that story nicely into the usual "racism/discriminati

on" baggage committed by Sinhalese. When in truth the1948 disenfranchisement was done to stop the growing communist influence in the area, it only applied to those who were not born in SL/could not prove residency for more than 7 years. And what about the Kandyan disenfranchisement/e

thnic cleansing by the British, an issue nicely ignored while they let their Tamil hordes run riot in Lanka? The mass displacement caused by the great "gift" of colonial tea estates plus the subsequent influx of indentured South Indian labour cost greatly. They lost their land and traditional home garden subsistence agriculture? Why is no one interested in addressing Sinhala grievances eh? The destruction of ancient paddy fields by the Europeans denied our people food which sustained us for millennias -a loss which is effecting us to this day.
Of course its only all tears and sorrow for Tamils, no one seems to yelling "human rights" of Sinhalese who are denied the number one human right, the right to life on a daily basis.
Where were "Human Rights Watch", "Amnesty International" "Save the Children" and the rest of these clowns who now all of a sudden supposedly love us more than we love ours and are ever ready to preach to us about "human rights" back in 1505, 1818, 1848?

Whats also strange is to see Tamil propaganda of today where they shed tears upon tears for the disenfranchisement of the Plantation Tamils –who they treat worse than wild animals as per the Tamil caste system. Tamil propaganda of course spins that story nicely into the usual "racism/discriminati
on" baggage committed by Sinhalese. When in truth the 1948 disenfranchisement was done to stop the growing communist influence in the area, it only applied to those who were not born in Sr Lanka or could not prove residency for more than 7 years.
And what about the Kandyan disenfranchisement/e
thnic cleansing by the British, an issue nicely ignored while they let their Tamil hordes run riot in Lanka? The mass displacement caused by the great "gift" of colonial tea estates plus the subsequent influx of indentured South Indian labour cost greatly. They lost their land and traditional home garden subsistence agriculture. Why is no one interested in addressing Sinhala grievances eh? The destruction (among other things) of ancient paddy fields by the Europeans denied our people food which sustained us for millennias -a loss which is effecting us to this day.
Of course its only all tears and sorrow for Tamils, no one seems to yelling "human rights" of Sinhalese who are denied the number one human right, the right to life on a daily basis.
Where were "Human Rights Watch", "Amnesty International" "Save the Children" and the rest of these clowns who now all of a sudden supposedly love us more than we love ours and are ever ready to preach to us about "human rights" back in 1505, 1818, 1848?

Hello Everybody, Young tamil boys are given money etc to promote thuggery in the country by the intelligence agents from the Sri Lankan embassy and these youngsters don't know where the money is coming from. The mission of the SL govt is to create bad PR IN THE UK. this is the reality. i have heard this from some ex intelligene workers of SL govt. please our loved youngters, do not get trapped into this.

Vellu Kumar wrote:
Hello Everybody, Young tamil boys are given money etc to promote thuggery in the country by the intelligence agents from the Sri Lankan embassy and these youngsters don't know where the money is coming from. The mission of the SL govt is to create bad PR IN THE UK. this is the reality. i have heard this from some ex intelligene workers of SL govt. please our loved youngters, do not get trapped into this.

Oh yeah its never your fault. Well said Kumar, thats the way to do it... blame someone else!

look who is talking
about violence.sinhala
geezers are the fore
runners and pioneers of all forms of violence whether it is
physical or sexual.in fact violence is the trade mark of sinhala geezers.if you look at the history of sri lanka there has been
several race riots where sinhala barbarians,thugs,sav


ages,hoodlums killed innocent tamils who have been living in the south.they killed innocent tamil men,
women and children in
their thousands.
sinhala hoodlums looted tamil property
and raped tamil women.
even the sinhala buddhist monks are notorious thugs and criminals.sinhala
buddhists monks are thugs,murderers,rapi


sts and pedophiles.i don't want to go to lengths to describe their abnormal behaviour.however,i give you two examples.
not long ago four sinhala geezers were beheaded in the kingdom for armed robbery.in haiti sinhala peace keepers
were kicked out by UN
for molesting and indecently assaulting
underaged girls.
the same sinhala geezers paid money to the haitian
prostitutes for services rendered.
sinhala geezers this is your background.
tamils i feel must have learnt violence
from you.kettle calling pot black.

I don't know what's wrong with Tamil culture .if I hear credit card stealing , drug trafficking , murder , anything you name there is behind a Tamil ( 99.99% Sri Lankan Tamil )

Personally I have very good tamil friends . but ruthless LTTE made tamil society a barberians . they send all the LTTE crimnals and their families to UK,Canada,AUS,USA to earn money for thier blood baths in Sri Lanka. now LTEE every week explode couple of busses of civilians in Sri Lanka . this is very sad situation . UK/US/AUS citizens you guys took most horrific barberians to your country . You only see a small fraction what we saw in Sri Lanka .

Some People say Tamils Terrorists are so educated and some even came up with their own statistics. How wonderful!!

If they are well educated;
Why do they become ruthless thugs??
Why do they involve in criminal activity?
Why do they steal money from people (especially Cried Card forging they are the master minded in the world)?
Why do they earn money by people smuggling?
Why do the earn money by drug trafficking?
Why they come to Europe and wash toilets? (Especially in Germany & Norway Tamils Terrorists are the best toilet washers)

Can that person come with his own statistic now??
Why canÂ’t they have a decent life here?

Sri Lanka has the universal free education and Tamil people can learn up to University level (in Sinhalese, Tamil or English medium). However,
LTTE leader has not even completed the grade 8 in the school.
Throughout his entire life he has never worked or earns any money in a reasonable manner.
His former political wing leader also didnÂ’t not even finish grade 8 and became a barber at very young age before joining the LTTE.
Current political wing leader was the only one who completed the grade 8.
There is no one even pass GSE (O/L).
This is their leaders.
So what else do you expect them??
They only know how to terrorise the world.
These ruthless thugs who are trying to terrorise UK now, there are just foot soldiers.

You canÂ’t change them.
DoesnÂ’t matter they are in UK or heaven they are Terrorists and want to live with their terror way of living.
We donÂ’t want them here.
We love the British way of living here we donÂ’t want these ruthless thugs to come here and change our society.
So please go back before we deport them.

Even though I didnÂ’t come up with my own statistics, IÂ’m a Medical Doctor (MSc, MD) and working as Research Fellow at one of the top UK University.

Hello Everybody, Young tamil boys are given money etc to promote thuggery in the country by the intelligence agents from the Sri Lankan embassy and these youngsters don't know where the money is coming from. The mission of the SL govt is to create bad PR IN THE UK. this is the reality. i have heard this from some ex intelligene workers of SL govt. please our loved youngters, do not get trapped into this.

Sri Lanka Govenment is a very rich . they give money to Tamils in UK,USA,AUS to make Tamil name bad . :):):)

Guys , judge who is talking ?

in the middle east
sinhala women work as
maids and wipe arabs
****.sinhala geezers and women work as toilet attendants.i saw this with my own eyes.this sinhala toilet attendant was
too busy talking on the mobile.before independence sinhala people worked as servants in tamil homes.

if you want to see What this Tamil LTTE is doing in Sri Lanka please visit following web site

http://www.spur.asn.
au/ltteatro.htm

TAMIL LTTE Attriocities please visit

Rajiv Gandhi Killing (Indian Priminister)

http://www.spur.asn.

au/rajiv.htm

Massacre of Sinhala, Muslim & Tamil Villagers

http://www.spur.asn.

au/ltteatrp.htm

Chronology of Suicide Bomb Attacks by Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka
http://www.spur.asn.

au/chronology_of_sui

cide_bomb_attacks_by

_Tamil_Tigers_in_sri

_Lanka.htm

Prominent Tamil Leaders Assasinated by the LTTE

http://www.spur.asn.

au/prominent_tamil_l

eaders_killed.htm

Sri Dalada Maligawa in Kandy (World Heritage Centre)

http://www.spur.asn.

au/dalada.htm

Central Bank, Colombo

http://www.spur.asn.

au/cbank.htm

Galadhari Hotel Bomb

http://www.spur.asn.

au/galadhari.htm

Aluthgama Train Blast

http://www.spur.asn.

au/aluthgama.htm

Serial Killings of some of the Parliamentarians

http://www.spur.asn.

au/killmp.htm

LTTE Tamil Tiger suicide bomber blows up a bus in Kandy Sri Lanka on 11 April 1999

http://www.spur.asn.

au/Kandy%20bomb%20on

%2011%20April%201999

.htm

The chickens have come home to roost.

Wonder what "Amnesia" International thinks of all this?

TAMIL LTTE Attriocities please visit

Rajiv Gandhi Killing (Indian Priminister)


http://www.spur.asn.


au/rajiv.htm

Massacre of Sinhala, Muslim & Tamil Villagers

http://www.spur.asn.


au/ltteatrp.htm

Chronology of Suicide Bomb Attacks by Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka

http://www.spur.asn.


au/chronology_of_sui


cide_bomb_attacks_by


_Tamil_Tigers_in_sri


_Lanka.htm

Prominent Tamil Leaders Assasinated by the LTTE


http://www.spur.asn.


au/prominent_tamil_l


eaders_killed.htm

Sri Dalada Maligawa in Kandy (World Heritage Centre)


http://www.spur.asn.


au/dalada.htm

Central Bank, Colombo


http://www.spur.asn.


au/cbank.htm

Galadhari Hotel Bomb

http://www.spur.asn.


au/galadhari.htm

Aluthgama Train Blast


http://www.spur.asn.


au/aluthgama.htm

Serial Killings of some of the Parliamentarians


http://www.spur.asn.


au/killmp.htm

LTTE Tamil Tiger suicide bomber blows up a bus in Kandy Sri Lanka on 11 April 1999


http://www.spur.asn.


au/Kandy%20bomb%20on


%2011%20April%201999


.htm

@Tharush

I totally agree with your views (except the comment about education) and I would be the first to say that we can’t single out a race and label them “all bad” because it is only a limited number of that community are “bad”. We find these bad apples within any race.

However, there are statistics and other pieces of evidence, both factual and anecdotal, which point to certain trends and traits we can use to support (or oppose) certain hypothesis. This is valid and acceptable. The hypothesis is that the post Â’83 Tamil immigrants are involved in criminal activities and that these activities are directly or indirectly financing a terrorist organisation proscribed in the UK and around 30 other countries. I am sure you agree at least that such a theory exists. It may exist mostly among those who oppose the LTTE, but it does exist. The next step is to see if there is any evidence to support this theory. I present facts that could be divided in to two sections; pre Â’83 and post Â’83 era.

Pre Â’83 era.

1) Both Sinhalese and Tamils who migrated to the UK from the early 1950s were generally affluent and educated. Mostly from Colombo and suburban areas who had strong associations among races.

2) There were no criminal behaviour found among either of the races. Then again, things were generally brilliant those days where people could leave their front doors unlocked.

Statistics therefore suggest that pre Â’83 there were no problems with Sri Lankan Sinhalese or Sri Lankan Tamils.

Post Â’83 era.

1) After (black) July 1983 the UK opened the floodgates to all and sundry Tamils to enter the UK. There were “irrefutable evidence” of Tamils being discriminated by the Sinhalese. Now this is interesting. People in this post shout about it is only a small number of Tamils who are in to this criminal activity and do not label all Tamils as thugs. And rightly so. Please then, don’t label all Sinhalese as discriminating against the Tamils because those who carried out those terrible atrocities against my fellow Tamil brothers in July 1983 are a very small number of misguided bunch of thugs. The fact that almost 85% of the total Tamil population in Sri Lanka chose to live among the Sinhalese population is ample testimony to the two races living in harmony and the Sinhalese NOT discriminating against the Tamils.

2) Understandably, the black July events fuelled an ethnic hatred towards the Sinhalese. All Sinhalese were labelled “bad” because of the actions of a few. The very principle some people in this post are shouting to uphold, they break in the next breath (or have broken in the past). You must use the same standard you measure others to measure yourself.

3) UK statistics:
Sri Lankan members of hardcore LTTE – all Tamil
(Not all Tamils support the LTTE, nor do they get involved with the following list of activities, I hasten to add)
Sri Lankans who got caught in large scale credit card scams – all Tamil
Sri Lankans who get involved in gang violence – all Tamil
Sri Lankans who extort protection money – all Tamil
Sri Lankans who push drugs – all Tamil
Sri Lankans who have got caught running all sorts of criminal activities – all Tamil

From media reports (Al Jazeera, BBC, CNN, Channel 4, etc.) and intelligence services (FBI, Janes Intelligence) we know that all of these illicit money making scams are known to fuel the LTTE, directly or indirectly.

If any Sinhalese Sri Lankan has been involved with any criminal activities in the UK, they are significantly few and far between. The percentage would be even less than the national average. Any moneys made would certainly not support any external cause, terrorism or otherwise. However, we couldnÂ’t say the same thing about Sri Lankan Tamils in the UK, could we?

Statistics show that there is a sharp increase in criminal activities by the Sri Lankan Tamils in the post Â’83 era and no noticeable rise with the Sri Lankan Sinhalese in the same time period.

This is what gives credibility to the Hypothesis we are discussing here. This is not a pop at you or any other decent law-abiding Sri Lankan Tamil. The facts canÂ’t be denied. As much as the young Asian males gave a bad name to all young Asian males in the UK after the 7/7 bombings and turned the eye of suspicion on all young Asian males in the UK, so do these LTTE supporting Sri Lankan Tamils do give a bad name to all Tamils in the UK and turn the eye of suspicion on them. It is not fair but it is stupid not to suspect a young Asian male with a rucksack on his back in a crowded underground train in the middle of London soon after 7/7. Sad but true.

I rest my case.

wow...wow...what's going on people....don't let ur emotions get carried away from real facts....**** u to all the singhalese who is calling tamils terrorists....becaus
e they know in their heart they are the real terrorists....stop hiding behind some other name and comment under ur name plz.....how is these little **** gangsters making from scams compared to white upper class mafia and other corruption....recent
ly bank loans involving high excutives....For the person saying about "tax" how many of your **** grandparents fucxked us up when they came to our country and took all the valuable and took all the valueable....Yo idiots...Australia is founded by WHITE thugs....listen everyone makes mistakes in life....how many of these young gangters are born in UK.....(many of them don't even know tamil).....good propaganda for sinhalese puthts though.....

An article published here in Canada recently spoke of similiar Tamil gang related violence here in Toronto as well. It is spreading far and wide and I am in no means being ignorant or racist.

In the late 80's and right throughout the 90's the Tamil Tigers funded a mass exodus of Tamils from Sri Lanka it was considered an investment for they knew with these Tamils migrating as refugees in other nations a vast network of overseas funding and political backing from the west awaited them. Countless tamils were given the opportunity to leave poverty stricken Sri Lanka to a more lucrative western nation if they posed as refugees and carried on their "freedom struggle". Of course western immigration courts hate to hear the words 'genocide' or 'ethnic cleansing' many were given refugee status and work visas to start working and channeling funds back to sri lanka for the procurement of arms and ammunition. It would be ignorant of me to say all Tamils were involved and I agree some are genuine refugees with genuine grievances but here in Canada our first 'Boat people' were a boat load of middle aged Tamil men who had "floated" to Canada from nowhere. They were given refugee status and later citizenship, However one has to question how a boat load of middle aged tamil men floated from Sri Lanka to Canada. The LTTE has been in the business of human smuggling for years now and no other terrorist outfit has this large a network. The LTTE have doctors, CEO's and MP's far and wide in all corners of the globe.

Hello “Sun”, go on eating your own tail until you find your own intestines and more! It is useless wasting my time you. As I said, you break your own argument. Enough of that.

Fellow Tamil and Sinhalese brethren, go on slinging mud at each other!!! Just see the way this discussion is going ahead! Hold on; just see where we are going! We are contributing to sink the ship together. None of us goes and face the brutality of war... it is the Tamil poor and the Sinhalese poor fighting each other. Can we make some sense and stop this endless hatred? Can we stop running in a closed circle (and come to the same point again and again)?

**** WAT U SAY!!! TRU BAD BOYZ 4 LYF YA UNDSTND....LONDON RD ALL DAY EVRYDAY JB 4 LYF

This is not the Tamil only issue. Just see anywhere in Sri Lanka, (Colombo, Matara, KAndy, any Sihala places) U shall see the worse than this. In 1983 1000 Tamils were murdered in cold blood. This is a Sri Lankan issue and Tamils learnt this from Sihalese for generation as 1958, 1977. 1983 etc.

Jogan "Just see anywhere in Sri Lanka, (Colombo, Matara, KAndy, any Sihala places) U shall see the worse than this." Are you refering to recent bomb blasts in srilanka ?

rama wrote:
in the middle east
sinhala women work as
maids and wipe arabs
****.sinhala geezers and women work as toilet attendants.i saw this with my own eyes.this sinhala toilet attendant was
too busy talking on the mobile.before independence sinhala people worked as servants in tamil homes.

what's wrong with that, it's just a job..better than sitting on your backside waiting for your dole or begging

Tamil LTTE terrorists are causing problems everywhere!! I feel bad for the few tamils that are good. Sri Lanka is facing tamil terrorism! The sri lankans (sinhalese) are fighting these terrorists and yet the LTTE tamil terrorsits are spreading false propaganda so they can seek asylum into other countries. England need to realize how ruthless the LTTE is and how their country is becoming a safe heaven for these tamil terrorists!!!! KARM IS A ****! and England, US, Canada is going to get it harder then anyone else! Support the Sri Lankan Government to fight against these tamil terrorists who are lying about human rights, discrimination, rape and god knows what else!!!. SRI LANKA is a soverign, democratically elected government and they need the support from the international community to fight the most ruthless terrorist organization in the world as quoted by the FBI!!!

Its actually tamils that work in gas stations, cleaning toilets, working at 7/11. not Sri Lankans. Sri Lankans (aka sinhalese) have had better education, and are mostly doctors. You don't see newspaper articles about sinhalese thugs, like tamil thugs,tamil terrorists, credit card frauds by tamils in gas stations..what a shame!

Ranjith wrote:
Hello “Sun”, go on eating your own tail until you find your own intestines and more! It is useless wasting my time you. As I said, you break your own argument. Enough of that. Fellow Tamil and Sinhalese brethren, go on slinging mud at each other!!! Just see the way this discussion is going ahead! Hold on; just see where we are going! We are contributing to sink the ship together. None of us goes and face the brutality of war... it is the Tamil poor and the Sinhalese poor fighting each other. Can we make some sense and stop this endless hatred? Can we stop running in a closed circle (and come to the same point again and again)?

r u an idiot? How do you negotiate with LTTE terrorists??? You can't! The war is not being fought by poor sinhalese. The Sinhalese, support the war by the government against these ruthless tamil terrorists that have not only killed their own tamil people but innocnet Sri Lankans in the process. Until they are fully eliminated, the war will continue!! The country and the people will never give up as they have fought for centuries against invaders and now tamil terrorists!!! Peace will prevail soon once the government captures the terror leader and end this nonsense violence by tamil thugs and tamil terorirsts!

GREAT ARTICLE!!! Finally a true journalist that is exposing the problem of tamil thugs and tamil terrorists in sri lanka!

rama wrote:
in the middle east sinhala women work as maids and wipe arabs ****.sinhala geezers and women work as toilet attendants.i saw this with my own eyes.this sinhala toilet attendant was too busy talking on the mobile.before independence sinhala people worked as servants in tamil homes.

You idiot - majority of workers who go to middle east are muslims - not sinhalese..We'll end the remaining sinhalese from going there after we finish every single tamil terrorist.
Sinhalese working in tamil homes - in your F***ing Dreams !!

To Mr. Prabakaran and those his supporters,

Only one question i hv to ask you all, it is,

To. Mr. Prabakaran and to his valuable supporters,

I have to ask only one simple question to you all,

You all are fighting since last 30 yrs or more, as of today what you have proved to your own community that you can help them to get separate home land and is it possible? Answer to this question from your bottom heart by assessing the circumstances as of today in Sri Lanka and all over the world. For me, you have achieved nothing other than killing your own community, Sinhalese and Muslims in Sri Lanka.

You all say that your community dose not have freedom in Sri Lanka, we can not understand what type of freedom you all asking, look at Tamils living in Colombo and other cities in southern Sri Lanka, they are living harmony and the have all the freedom to enjoy.

If you look today situation in Colombo, indeed, I do agree Tamils are suffering a lot why, because, you are hiding among them and killing the forces those who are fighting against you. This is simple logic; the forces will do all the efforts to segregate you from the normal Tamil community in Colombo and elsewhere in the country.

One thing is true and all people who have common sense should agree with me, Still the LTTE is surviving, you know why, because they are using innocent Tamil people as a human shield for them to hide and in order to protect these innocent Tamil people only, the government could not end-up this war. This is a good example for the government of Sri Lanka that protecting Human Rights a lot.

I am challenging you Prabakaran and his fighters, sent the innocent Tamil people to a safest place and face the forces of Sri Lanka alone with your capacity and see what will happened, I am sure you are finished within a week or less.

Why do we have to dwell on evil.Historically, many Sri Lankans (Sinhalese and Tamils) have been traumatised on a large scale in the massacres of 1972 and 1983. There has never been any effort to address 'psychological trauma' of those who were left behind. Naturally the kith and kin of those victims are now perpetrating violence and hatred. An objective effort to 'console' affected Sri Lankans (Sinhalese and Tamils) may be worthy of consideration.

These are not real tamils.They are govt para people. These people like karuna govt send them to this country in Diplomatic passport and giving bad name for the society.Stop the srilanka govt to send these people to UK. Then we all can live peasefully at least in these countries.

The above exchanges are an excellent illustration of the foolishness of importing people from the other side of the globe together with their long-standing squabbles. If these people have a grievances to sort out with each other, fine, let them get on with it - but in their country, not mine!

I talk to my next door srilankan tamil.He always worry about this gangs.He is a law abiding person.We ahve to accept that most of these youngsters come to this country after seeing the blood in their daily life.Army shooting their mum,father,sisters(r
aping them),.... so on . Need more thinking. This problem is not started before the birth of Prabakaran.So sinhalese have to look back their mistake they made from 1948.Every decades you kill Tamils.Whre are you going to account for this. Still you are not thinking about your mistakes. At least think now. Your Srilanka not nessary to split.

Reading the posts above I get the feeling of hatred towards tamils. A lot of posts make references to LTTE and terrorist.

Just take a minute to reflect that fact that these are young guys who were either born in the UK or had come over to at a youg age and have no experience of being in a war situation.

Tamil were very successful in Sri Lanka and were living in peace until the Sinhalese gov't decided to take control and discriminate against them.

Tamil are hard working individuals who want their childredn to have a better life, then send over their kids to the UK and Canada in the hope that they will be bought up in the right way.
However westeren culture together with lack of parental guidence had lead to a minority who reflect badly on the whole community. I have no sympathy for them and all who behave in this way

I strongly condemn this heading "tamil gangs" this is written by a journalist with a little knowledge of tamils or knowledge of tamils in UK. Of course there is no one to speak for tamils thats one of the reason we our homeland back to us in Sri Lanka. I would the paper to apologize to tamils regarding this article. Dear Journalists, think about other crime in UK, c would u call Scottish Gangs, Welsh Gangs etc

Let re head this Article.
Sri Lankan Gangs - They are the made of Sri Lankan Racist Goverments.

Lost Tamils form a gang - They are of course lost, growing up in new world of misery

No one to care for tamil gangs.

Suresh Kumar

YES,ALL 2ND GENERATIONS IN UK HAVE CAUSED PROBLEMS.1981 RAILTON ROAD BRIXTON AND OTHER COMMUNITIES BEFORE THEN(MOST KNOW WHAT I MEAN).IT IS BECAUSE THE SENSIBLE PEOPLE CANT GET THROUGH TO POLITICIANS
(THAT IS POLITICS)MAKE HAY WHILE SUNSHINE SOCIETY.BEEN HERE 35 YEARS I DONT STOP ON HIGH STREET TO BUY FAST FOOD ANY MORE RATHER STARVE(KNIFE CULTURE) GET TO THE ROOT OF IT SILLY BUGGERS

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sjosle wrote:
GREAT ARTICLE!!! Finally a true journalist that is exposing the problem of tamil thugs and tamil terrorists in sri lanka!

Where in the Hell does it mention Sri Lanka

And clealrly all those that claim that these people are terrorists and members of the LTTE Where is your proof.
Is all the Gangs of other 2ndary nationalities that commit gang related Crimes linked to Terrorists?
tamils are not the only gang in London but how would people living in Sri lanka know about London. For them Every Tamil is a terrorist and deserves to be killed. No wonder the LTTE has the support of the Tamil people. Even if individuals didn't support the LTTE they still be abducted and tortured in the Streets of COLOMBO so might as well do the 'crime' that every tamil is accused of when we talk about tamil rights and oppresion by the clearly racist Sinhala media and people considering every tamil incident in is related to LTTE where as other ethnic groups in the UK can commit the same crimes without being labbled as terrorists?

Every tamil is a terorists therefore it porves that LTTE is the sole representative of the Tamil people and the Sinhala racist chauvanists cannot deny that.

The most coments made here are one-sided view of mostly sinhala rasist about tamils view, i acknowledge the act of violence carried out was a stupid youngsters problems which occurs on all comunities. The Tamil People through out the world are known for hardworking, easy adaptable in to any socity,country they are living. A well established educated comunity. Through out europe there are
400 000 EU Tamils, alone In UK there are 185000 Ceylon-Tamils, out of them over 6000 professional GP, Docters,over 20 000 degree holders working in their profesional jobs,4600 Lawyers,solicitors,
not to forget the small convienient shops, off-licence,news agents and petrol bunks they own contributing to UK GDP, where the owner works over 14 hrs a day or up to 95hrs a week to estblish his and his family's life with over 50000 degree holders of this same tamil comunity,..now everyone from this forum calculate the ratio in percentage before classifying the Tamil-Race negative! black sheep and scumbags are in every race!!

It serves the UK right for harbouring these terrorists who have come here for economic reasons. The likes of Simon Hughes, Keith Vaz and all have plenty of Tamils in their constituencies. The majority are trouble makers. Some would call it "just desserts". There's only one homeland for Tamils if they do not wish to integrate and that is a one way ticket to that sh..hole called Tamil Nadu!

I was conscripted as a 13 year old child by the LTTE. I was abused, physically, mentally and sexually by my trainers. I finally escaped from Jaffna and made my way to Colombo and finally the UK. I am a refugee. Now I live in a country where I am not made welcome because I am a tamil. I owe the UK nothing. I work for my bread, and I have had to work in petrol stations or supermarkets and even as a cleaner of toilets. I have no guilt engaging in credit card theft etc. Why shouldn't I when this country never helped my people back in Sri Lanka against the racist sinhalese and the murderous LTTE? We get our separate country and we will leave your godforsaken UK happily.

SINGALESE PEOPLE WERE RACISTS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HANDLE TAMIL PEOPLE BEING MORE CLEVER THAN THEM. SINGALESE ARMY TAKES THE **** ESPECIALLY WHAT THEY DO TO THE TAMIL FAMILIES BACK IN SRILANKA!!! RAPING WOMEN AND KILLING CHILDREN! SO SINGALESE PEOPLE CAN'T TALK ABOUT VIOLENCE TOO. GIVE OUR SEPERATE COUNTRY AND LAND AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS IN SRILANKA!!! US TAMIL PEOPLE WILL LOOK AFTER TAMIL EELAM!!! YOU CAN MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND WE WILL DO THE SAME. AND PEOPLE IN GANGS GET A LIFEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

@Tigress19

You are a perfect example of why we shouldn't just blindly let in asylum seekers based the fact they have been mistreated in their own country. The fact is bringing in damaged people and refugees from the third world is destroying this country. I have a lot of sympathy for the millions of people whose live in missery but importing them to our small island is not the solution.

Dear Kanthan,
(UK on 9:43am today)

Oh my God!!
Where did you get your “incredible statistics”??
What are the sources my friend??
Did you get it from GMC, UK national statistic or from refugee council?

IÂ’m a (registered GMC) Medical doctor. IÂ’m really surprised to see there are 6000 Tamils GPÂ’s in UK??
Where the hell they live in UK?? Can you please prove at least this statistics??
I feel like contacting GMC or refugee council and verify this. This is really shocking news to me.

Perhaps, I can start a very good research bit “over 6000 Tamil professional GP living in UK while some of these Thugs are behaving like ruthless terrorists. Should we deport terrorists and keep 6000 GP?” (Because if these 6000 Tamils GP’s leave UK then NHS will be collapsed & British people will started to die without GP’s.)

So this is very good project Kanthan.
I can easily get well funded by NHS.
Maybe Kanthan can become my Research Assistant then! As he seems to be very educated and have no criminal records)

I have known several tamils all my life. Growing up on a tea estate in Galagedera where we had almost a hundred south indian tamil workers and also going to school in Mount Lavinia, I had several tamil classmates and some of them good friends even today. What I have learnt is that tamils are never to be trusted, because they will do whatever it takes to get what they want, even if they have to bend the rules, break-up long standing friendships or even kill your mother.

Deceiving gullible western societies and governments has been pretty simple stuff for the tamil people. They even boast about it – Westerners are easily won over with a heart-warming story and once that has been achieved, all you have to do is claim you are a victim of discrimination and racism, and they are sucked in for good. Tamils discovered this tac-tic very early and have used it purposefully and with cunning.

Sure there are clever, well educated and intelligent tamils, but they are all bound by some old fashioned cast system that makes even the best of them, somewhat inhumane. They are merciless even to their children and others from their own race; they look down on their own in the most despicable ways. When I was a kid and I would go to the estate during school holidays, I would watch on pay-days, when the estate workers (labourers) would line up in front of the estate office to receive their monthly wage packet. The superintendent, a tamil himself, would hand out the wage-packets to the workers and how he did it, always freaked me out.

He would call out the name of the labourer from a list and then place the wage-packet on the ground for the worker to pick-up. He found it below his status to hand the wage-packet to the labourer himself, a fellow tamil. Then the labourer had to back away and was not allowed to turn his back on his boss, until dismissed with a wave of the hand. The labourers were not allowed to set foot even on the office doorstep, and if they did, they would receive an unmerciful beating from the superintendent.

This was back in the mid 1970Â’s and thatÂ’s the way of the tamil people even today. They have always discriminated their own through a degrading cast system and now its pay-back time, as there always is. What goes around comes around. So, now tamils the world-over claim they are victims of discrimination, because what they put out into the universe is now coming back to haunt them.

You simply get what you give – Tamils are honestly the worst kind of people on earth as they are ruthless and care for nobody. Gordon Brown, Keith Vaz and also the British people should fear these terrorists, not support them. They will give you the vote Mr. Vaz, but then they will play you good and proper. They will screw you over and because the British public is relatively ignorant of their ways, they will get what they want from you.

So wise-up England and support the government of Sri Lanka put an end to this tamil bloodbath.

Neil is understandably taken aback by Kanthan's claims (6000 Tamil GPs, etc.) and wants proof. I live in Toronto, so I cannot say whether Kanthan is playing the usual Tamil Tiger con game. Over here, the population in Toronto of Tamils was proclaimed around 1997 to be 100,000 by Tiger activists. By 2000 or so the figure had zoomed to 200,000. In 2001, figures like 250-300,000 Sri Lankan-Tamils were being bandied about and lazy reporters published these figures without checking. A local Sri Lankan activist, though, checked the 2001 Canadian Census figures to verify the claim. Result: according to the official 2001 Census there were 98,000 'Tamil-speakers' in the Toronto area! The extra hundreds of thousands were being used by Canadian Tamil Tiger fronts to create fear amongst politicians. Protect the Tamil Tigers or else get voted out of office by our myriad supporters who we can mobilize in an instant! Several Liberal Party politicians in Canada have fallen for this scam and no doubt, too, the likes of the craven Keith Vaz and politicians in Oslo.

THE TRUTH wrote:
SINGALESE PEOPLE WERE RACISTS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HANDLE TAMIL PEOPLE
BEING MORE CLEVER THAN THEM. SINGALESE ARMY TAKES THE **** ESPECIALLY
WHAT THEY DO TO THE TAMIL FAMILIES BACK IN SRILANKA!!! RAPING WOMEN AND
KILLING CHILDREN! SO SINGALESE PEOPLE CAN'T TALK ABOUT VIOLENCE TOO.
GIVE OUR SEPERATE COUNTRY AND LAND AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS IN
SRILANKA!!! US TAMIL PEOPLE WILL LOOK AFTER TAMIL EELAM!!! YOU CAN MIND
YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND WE WILL DO THE SAME. AND PEOPLE IN GANGS GET A
LIFEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Is that all your propaganda then? ALL TAMILS EAT BABIES.

I was pleasantly surprised when reading all the comments. Majority of the comments seem to reflect on the true situation. This is a marked deviation from a comments board on any BBC news article on Sri Lankan Tamil issues/LTTE where the majority of the posted comments are biased towards the LTTE. Of course we all know that most of those BBC posts come from within the LTTE.

Hats off to you, Guardian readers and Guardian

Some of these kids need to be locked up! And some have been through traumatic events in Sri lanka and need psychiatric help - a generation of ethnic genocide could have the same effects on any society. Dont forget not all tamils are LTTE!

priya wrote:
listan ya der s no point commanting in all the tamil ppl yh.... dats not right ppl who said dat....

i agree with ya girl, y they killing tamil brothere instead they can kill some singalese idiots¬!!

wow - some crazy comments from people - there's gangs all over the UK - kids here kill each other for nothing these days - cant believe the racist comments i've read!! have people already forgotten about the 100 Sri lankan soldiers (out of 700) that were deported from haiti last month on rape charges while on a UN peacekeeping mission - The Guardian editor needs to think hard before putting headlines lie this implicating racial hatred!

Tamils live in this deluded thinking that they are somehow more gifted and clever than other Sri Lankans. There is no denying the fact that some tamils are a hardworking lot. And for that they have been accordingly rewarded within the social system of Sri Lanka. However, most of these achievements have been amply aided by widespread favouritism by tamil academics to tamil students. This is not just hearsay. There are several reported incident including the cancellation of exam and closure of centres by the prestigious ICAM (now CIMA I believe) in tamil dominated Jaffna area. As with any minority they have they have helped each other by whatever means necessary and possible to get their people to the top while in Sri Lanka. If they were innately bright and cleaver then rather than forming murderous gangs and engaging in random acts of violence these youths could have achieved something in life given the all the opportunities that open to them in the in this country. The fact that percentage wise most crimes at the moment for any minority group are committed by tamils proves the fact that they are nothing but murderous idiots when left to their own recourse. It is laughable that “educated” tamils are now trying to distance themselves from these gangs saying that they don’t represent them. Unfortunately you cannot pick and choose your race. These tamils represent pretentious persona that you are trying to promote all over the world as a gifted race suppressed by a bullying majority. Now you have all the freedom in the world. No one is suppressing you. If you are so clever why can’t these morons be doctors, lawyers, engineers like the rest of you lot? These tamil scumbags who are in the UK and many other western countries are a representative sample of the scourge that is in Sri Lanka. “Biting the hand that feeds them” is nothing new to them. They have done that in Sri Lank and they will do it here. They will not think twice about plundering the bank accounts or credit cards of innocent and trusting British public that are paying taxes to put food on the tables, cloth them and put a roof over their heads. If these criminals claim to be the poor hardworking tamils fleeing from oppression seeking refuge in the kindness of the western nations just imagine what the ones that are left in Sri Lanka are capable of.

nobody is claiming that the Sri Lankan government are faultless - their shortcomings are well known and open for all to see. However, the Sri Lankan government did not systematically create a diaspora for their own self-preservation as the LTTE DID. Whilst all Tamils are clearly not terrorists, I believe that the vast majority of them living in the UK contribute to the LTTE in some shape or form, be it by choice or by force. Sinhalese living in the UK can choose to support the government or not - their families back home will not be violated if they speak out against the government. Tamils do not enjoy such freedom, here or in the wanni.

The war in Sri Lanka is now a Tamil Tiger choice. At the last round of talks it was the tigers who broke the talks and showed no sign of flexibilty at the negotiation table when the government of Sri Lanka was, by most accounts, ready to offer the best deal yet to resolve the situation. Similarly, it was the LTTE who denied Tamils living in government controlled teritory the oportunity to vote at the last election, thus handing the Presidency to Mahinda Rajapakse. The majority of the country would have opted for the peace option in Ranil Wickramasinghe.

Meanwhile, the LTTE continue to kill anyone who stands in their way, regardless of ethnicity. The assassinations by the tigers of Lakshman Kardigirigama and Jeyaraj Fernandapoulle prove that they want to silence any voices that can help lead to a negotiated settlement and moderate future for the island. Besides, the LTTE will never be forgiven for the killing of Rajiv Ghandi, never. They will always be exiles in the international community.

The whole thing is a mess, but it is undeniable that the sinhalese and muslims who arrived in the UK from Sri Lanka have not become involved in gang culture and criminality to the extent that the tamils have.

We would all like to see a negotiated settlement to the situation, but evidence suggests that the LTTE knows no other language than violence. If they prevail as the 'sole voice' of the Tamil people then I pitty anyone who has to live underneath them. Perhaps East Ham, Tooting and Croydon will suffer the consequences too. For whatever reason (post-colonialism or LTTE planning) the Sri Lankan conflict now extends globally and the effects of it impact upon all of us. As a white British citizen with a keen interest in the situation there in Sri Lanka i feel that the conduct of the tamils here in london makes what happens in Sri Lanka my business. They go I am not ignorant or ill-informed. it is from knowlege that i base my opinions and the situation is simple: Tamils are an embarrassment to all concerned, an embarrassment to our planet. Deluded, devious, cunning, ruthless and violent. I have seen this with my own eyes in the UK and on my visits to Sri Lanka. If Tamils are to redeem themselves they should rise up against the LTTE and do themselves and the rest of the world a favour.

Guru wrote:
I have known several tamils all my life. Growing up on a tea estate in Galagedera where we had almost a hundred south indian tamil workers and also going to school in Mount Lavinia, I had several tamil classmates and some of them good friends even today. What I have learnt is that tamils are never to be trusted, because they will do whatever it takes to get what they want, even if they have to bend the rules, break-up long standing friendships or even kill your mother. Deceiving gullible western societies and governments has been pretty simple stuff for the tamil people. They even boast about it – Westerners are easily won over with a heart-warming story and once that has been achieved, all you have to do is claim you are a victim of discrimination and racism, and they are sucked in for good. Tamils discovered this tac-tic very early and have used it purposefully and with cunning. Sure there are clever, well educated and intelligent tamils, but they are all bound by some old fashioned cast system that makes even the best of them, somewhat inhumane. They are merciless even to their children and others from their own race; they look down on their own in the most despicable ways. When I was a kid and I would go to the estate during school holidays, I would watch on pay-days, when the estate workers (labourers) would line up in front of the estate office to receive their monthly wage packet. The superintendent, a tamil himself, would hand out the wage-packets to the workers and how he did it, always freaked me out. He would call out the name of the labourer from a list and then place the wage-packet on the ground for the worker to pick-up. He found it below his status to hand the wage-packet to the labourer himself, a fellow tamil. Then the labourer had to back away and was not allowed to turn his back on his boss, until dismissed with a wave of the hand. The labourers were not allowed to set foot even on the office doorstep, and if they did, they would receive an unmerciful beating from the superintendent. This was back in the mid 1970’s and that’s the way of the tamil people even today. They have always discriminated their own through a degrading cast system and now its pay-back time, as there always is. What goes around comes around. So, now tamils the world-over claim they are victims of discrimination, because what they put out into the universe is now coming back to haunt them. You simply get what you give – Tamils are honestly the worst kind of people on earth as they are ruthless and care for nobody. Gordon Brown, Keith Vaz and also the British people should fear these terrorists, not support them. They will give you the vote Mr. Vaz, but then they will play you good and proper. They will screw you over and because the British public is relatively ignorant of their ways, they will get what they want from you. So wise-up England and support the government of Sri Lanka put an end to this tamil bloodbath.

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Bravo Guru,
You are absolutely right, I'm working in UAE for over 25 years and working with hundresd of Indians. All of them they say never to trust a Tamilian who comes from South India. In my company too the Tamilians always try to screw the next Indian who is from a different state.

Rama has to be reminded about KALLATHONI. Rama keep talking that Sinhalese (NOT SINGALESE -educated tamils doesn't no how to spell Sinhalese)house maids cleaning toilets of Arabs in the Gulf. Yes, not only Sinhalese, Majority are Muslims and tamils from the north and east. Last week i met a Tamil laborer who earns US$ 200.00 a month an unknown LTTE supporter has approached him forcing to donate US$ 50.00 for the LTTE fund. In Doha, Qatar there are LTTE activities and few innocent tamils were killed by LTTE activists. Very soon this will spread in other Gulf countries but it will be the last.
Ram, there are house maids from india, Pakistan, Nepal, Thailand, Philipine, Indonesia, from east Europe, from Africa and also from UK. housemaid or nanni is a job to do with a respect and earn a monthly wage with dignity and also come to the Gulf with a valid Visa.
Rama, KALLATHONI swam accros to Ceylon and cleaned toilets of entire Srlanka until late 70s. Not Sinhal men cleaned a single toilet in Srilanka untill the Srilankan govt gave citizenship to these KALLATHONI who also walk house to house collecting empty bottles, scrap metal, old news papers and used cement bags. Educated tamils are of colombo and from the South are call Colombo Chetties. Kallathonies were settled in the north and the S.Indian labors who the British brought to Ceylon at 14 cents a week payroll are in the hill country called state plantation tamils were given citizenship. As of today there are 20,000 South indian orgin tamils living in refugee camps in Chennai, S.India awaiting for citizenships of Srilanka as agreed by the SL govt.
why Rama? why the SL govt issue citizenship for those Indian tamils claiming refugee status while living in India. because they don't have any place to live in India? These people become LTTE.
I think SL govt is making a big mistake of issuing new citizenships for unknown Indians. Why can't these Rich & educated tamils

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living in the west help those refugees to land in UK,US,Canada, France or in Australia?

Sun wrote:

Vellu Kumar wrote: Hello Everybody, Young tamil boys are given money etc to promote thuggery in the country by the intelligence agents from the Sri Lankan embassy and these youngsters don't know where the money is coming from. The mission of the SL govt is to create bad PR IN THE UK. this is the reality. i have heard this from some ex intelligene workers of SL govt. please our loved youngters, do not get trapped into this.

Oh yeah its never your fault. Well said Kumar, thats the way to do it... blame someone else!

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If vellu Kumar has ****ing guts he should confront the Srilankan high commisioner with proof.
I think these young tamil boys are collecting refugee qouta from the embassey.

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The attitude of comments on this page are indicative of the misinformation and disinformation that exists. The Sri Lankan population of this country do by and large live as law abiding citizens.

What is interesting is how the 1st Generation British Tamils who have never lived in Sri Lanka have a very passionate opinion on something they have never experienced. They honestly believe that all Tamils who left Sri Lanka were fleeing govt forces. This is simply not true. A great many Tamils left Sri Lanka fleeing the Tigers who have created a totalitarian state where learned discourse is not on the agenda. The older generation of Tamils will know this but do not necessarily educate the younger generation. Go to Colombo and see how many Kovilas(Hindu Temples) exist everywhere, how many Tamil businessmen and Tamil run businesses flourish around the city. The underlying factor here is Terrorism. If you are involved in Terrorist activity then you will be punished by the authorities under the law of the land. This is true in any country. Terrorist attacks are now a daily occurrence in Sri Lanka and the only victims are innocent civilians who just want to make ends meet.

The educated/ professional Tamils in this country just want to live in Peace and raise their children to be assets to society. But many of them are bullied into donating money to Tiger activities. I have seen this with my own eyes - these thugs demand that 'Standing Orders' are set up donating a required amount every month. The families live in fear and end up complying. They are absolutely powerless, if they speak out against the Tigers then they put their families safety at risk. They are literally forced to support the Tigers who supposedly fight a war for the Tamil people. ItÂ’s a contradiction in terms.
India’s support of the Sri Lankan Govt is currently heavily criticized by the Tigers. But India is supporting SL as a pre-emptive strike against the Tigers whose next aim is to also claim parts of South India. I don’t want to get into a historical debate about who was in Sri Lanka first because there is not enough Tangible evidence to support Tamil claims although historically there has always been a Tamil presence. But lets get this into Perspective – Sri Lanka even in its name is all inclusive. The country is not Called SinhaPura and does not represent its ethnic inhabitants like England, France or Italy does. Sri Lanka is for Sri Lankans regardless of ethnicity.

There is no reason why all who live there cannot simply unite under the SRI LANKAN flag and work towards a great country that still manages to succeed despite the problems it encounters.

And letÂ’s not forget that war makes some people very rich and very powerful. DonÂ’t let propaganda from either side decide the fate of its people

Tim from Colindale wrote:
I THINK WE DONE A BIGEST MISTAKE TAKING ALL THIS GARBADGE LIKE TAMILS TO OUR COUNTRY, ONE DAY THAY WILL ASK A PART OF ENGLAND LIKE EASTHAM. PLEASE GOVERMENT OPEN YOUR EYSE HAVE A LOOK WHAT THAY DOING TO SRI LANKA

Andrew from Edgware wrote:
FOR ALL TAMILS
PACK YOUR THINGS ITS TIME TO GOBACK WHERE YOU COM FROM, BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE DOGS,CREDIT CART THIVES AND MAINLY YOU ALL ARE LTTE DONT FORGET YOUR ALL HAVE I SKINTO

Darren from Croydon wrote:
DEAR TAMIL VOICE EASTHAM

THIS IS TAMIL CAULTURE

1.STELLING MONEY FROM CREDIT CARDS
2.DEPANDING ON BRITISH TAX PAYES MONEY.
3.CLAIMING REFEUGY ALLOVER THE WORLD
4.SPREADING TERRARISM IN SRI LANKA AND HEAR

WHAT A SHAMELESS EDITOS

What do Tim, Andrew & Darren have in common? They all have English names, but couldn't write proper english. My year 2 son can write considerably better than you (no spelling mistakes, correct usage of punctuation marks, better grammar) Shame on you lot.

The Tamil community in Britian is a hard working and intelligent community, who have integrated well into British Society. These incude BBC's George Alagiah, MTV's Tim Kash and the Singer MIA, just to name a few of the high profile ones. There are a few members in our society which cause trouble and they need to be dealt with by the firm hand of the law. The Tamil community should also assist the police in all investigationsif they have information.

One thing the readers must understand is that there are certain organisations/people supported by the Sri lankan government who will do what it takes to discredit the Tamil community and highlight any actions in the media , as you can see from the comments below.

How can the actions of four thugs, two of whom are not even Tamil be the fault of the entire Taml community.

The Tamil community in Britian is a hard working and intelligent community

Yeah sure sure. Tell that to someone who hasn't watched a Tamil movie. From the time is starts all you will see is someone taking an Axe and splitting other human beings into pieces. That will then be followed by tamil women crying their lungs out (I call it the Jaffna Symphony Orchestra ).

LOL!

r u an idiot? How do you negotiate with LTTE terrorists??? You can't! The war is not being fought by poor sinhalese. The Sinhalese, support the war by the government against these ruthless tamil terrorists that have not only killed their own tamil people but innocnet Sri Lankans in the process. Until they are fully eliminated, the war will continue!! The country and the people will never give up as they have fought for centuries against invaders and now tamil terrorists!!! Peace will prevail soon once the government captures the terror leader and end this nonsense violence by tamil thugs and tamil terorirsts!

Hey Sam, go in front of a mirror and you will see the perfect idiot! I just wonder why I should keep on arguing with people like you. Have I ever talked about 'negotiating with LTTE'? You are sick in your mind, look at your hatred and thirst for blood!!! People like you are the ones who fuel LTTE. As long as Sinhalese have this kind of racist, war mongering mentality, the LTTE will have no problem in finding manpower. Tamils will have left with little option to side with the murderous LTTE; that is precisely whatÂ’s been happening in Sri Lanka. Have you any knowledge whatsoever when you say that this war is fought by poor Sinhalese and poor Tamils? Look at the income profiles of the Sinhalese soldiers who fights the war on ground and look at the Tamils who are in the war front! Simply look at the studies done, look at the statistics. Have you ever travelled in these areas, seen the destruction, talked to people of all ethnicities? I HAVE.

This is an ideological war that we all - Tamil, Sinhalese, Muslims - must win. If we cling on to our own petty ideologies that stem from our ethnicities, religions and our barbaric, tribal histories we (Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims) will never resolve this issue and the country will eventually be divided. This is the point I was trying to make. That is all. Unless we separate LTTE from the vast majority of moderate Tamil population we will NEVER win this war. Even if we ‘capture’ Wanni we will never win the hearts of the Tamil people. We have already alienated them so much and you see the way they react. By choice or by force, can you ever understand the sheer desperation of a suicide bomber? They don’t happen out of nothing. They are only a product of maximum suppression. Study some work done on suicide bombers.

Mind you in wars there have never ever been winners. There are only losers. We all know the cost of war on Sri Lankan soil (or in the Middle East for that matter).

I know my point maybe venomous for Sinhalese racists (or Tamil and Muslim racists for that matter).

Let’s go back to the point of this long distracted discussion: the gang violence in the UK and the way the writer has profiled it racially with the adjective ‘Tamil’. As I’ve said before, this kind of racial profiling is very misleading. Would he do the same if these gangs were all English locals?

We also should identify the historical, social, political contexts of our plights, our fights with one another. We all know our over four centuries long colonial history and what the colonisers did to all of us, Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims. Colonialism continues very much still. We are not ‘independent’ in any sense. Present civil war has essential colonial (and pre-colonial) lingering as well. No one can pass the buck to others hence. Resolutions must come jointly, leaving aside petty agendas.

Finally, look at these youth who’ve resort to violence and their potential youthful energies! Why do they resort to such violence? Is just locking them up, deporting them (as some suggests) help solve the issue? Why are they lost in that way? Our societies, in the “west” are equally burdened with social issues, poverty, institutional, systemic inequalities, injustice, racism, religious fundamentalism. “Market” has taken us over, totally. We buy and sell our bodies. In such intense marketaised societies what we see as violence (look at what happened in France recently for instance!) is only inevitable.

Ranjith - I think you are absolutely correct in almost all the comments you have made.
It is time for intelligent dialogue.
The thing is – whether Sinhala or Tamil, once you’ve been indoctrinated there’s no turning back. A true sign of intelligence is objective thinking…. Some are lucky.... some aren't

I know Sinhalese kids who are adament our govt is right –and no doubt there are Tamil kids that would put their life down for the cause. It a dangerous thing to play with young minds.

The WAR has raged for 25 years and nothing has been achieved in real terms.

Guru wrote:
I have known several tamils all my life. Growing up on a tea estate in Galagedera where we had almost a hundred south indian tamil workers and also going to school in Mount Lavinia, I had several tamil classmates and some of them good friends even today. What I have learnt is that tamils are never to be trusted, because they will do whatever it takes to get what they want, even if they have to bend the rules, break-up long standing friendships or even kill your mother.

Deceiving gullible western societies and governments has been pretty simple stuff for the tamil people. They even boast about it – Westerners are easily won over with a heart-warming story and once that has been achieved, all you have to do is claim you are a victim of discrimination and racism, and they are sucked in for good. Tamils discovered this tac-tic very early and have used it purposefully and with cunning.

Sure there are clever, well educated and intelligent tamils, but they are all bound by some old fashioned cast system that makes even the best of them, somewhat inhumane. They are merciless even to their children and others from their own race; they look down on their own in the most despicable ways. When I was a kid and I would go to the estate during school holidays, I would watch on pay-days, when the estate workers (labourers) would line up in front of the estate office to receive their monthly wage packet. The superintendent, a tamil himself, would hand out the wage-packets to the workers and how he did it, always freaked me out.

He would call out the name of the labourer from a list and then place the wage-packet on the ground for the worker to pick-up. He found it below his status to hand the wage-packet to the labourer himself, a fellow tamil. Then the labourer had to back away and was not allowed to turn his back on his boss, until dismissed with a wave of the hand. The labourers were not allowed to set foot even on the office doorstep, and if they did, they would receive an unmerciful beating from the superintendent.

This was back in the mid 1970Â’s and thatÂ’s the way of the tamil people even today. They have always discriminated their own through a degrading cast system and now its pay-back time, as there always is. What goes around comes around. So, now tamils the world-over claim they are victims of discrimination, because what they put out into the universe is now coming back to haunt them.

You simply get what you give – Tamils are honestly the worst kind of people on earth as they are ruthless and care for nobody. Gordon Brown, Keith Vaz and also the British people should fear these terrorists, not support them. They will give you the vote Mr. Vaz, but then they will play you good and proper. They will screw you over and because the British public is relatively ignorant of their ways, they will get what they want from you.

So wise-up England and support the government of Sri Lanka put an end to this tamil bloodbath.

Well said Guru

Lies and deception is a way of life for them.
If they have such a "hard time" why is it that no one else, Indians, Malaysians and all of Asia never believe their sob stories?
Why is it that they hang around Western embassies in Colombo crying "discrimination" and "genocide"?? Clearly if this was happening they'd run off to Tamil Nadu (Tamil Country) in India home to 60 million Tamils and just one boat ride away –a place where they would be safe if they were really under threat.
Why do they run of to Western countries, after spending weeks and months outside Western embassies in Colombo, if they're lives are under immediate danger?
Truth is they are ECONOMIC REFUGEES.
They'd run off to Mozambique if it was a first world country with the best quality of life on the planet.

Ruwani wrote:

The Tamil community in Britian is a hard working and intelligent community

Yeah sure sure. Tell that to someone who hasn't watched a Tamil movie. From the time is starts all you will see is someone taking an Axe and splitting other human beings into pieces. That will then be followed by tamil women crying their lungs out (I call it the Jaffna Symphony Orchestra ). LOL!

So true Ruwani.

Tamil Cinema in India has been churning how violent rape, mutilation and hacking to death films since its inception in the 1950s.
Clearly there is a market for these films as they have never stopped producing such violent and disgusting movies, which sell incredibility fast.

Its also hilarious how they roll around on the floor and scream in front of white people about their self inflicted "plight"- yet they never try that in front of a North Indian, Malaysia, Chinese etc basically never in front of non-whites, for the simple reason non-whites are fully aware of their lies, deception and disgusting violent culture (as mentioned in the article) and do not fall for their little shows of "pain".
After all in Asian countries millions of people suffer being in third world countries, most have it WORSE than Tamils do in Sri Lanka. Yet it white people believe their tears are real and believe that what is happening to them is happening because they are Tamil and thus being "discriminated". Yet millions go through the same third world destitution situations. And least we forget the oppressive Tamil caste system as I mentioned in an early post yesterday (e.g. High caste Tamils banning the low castes and ultra low castes from Hindu Temples, Tamil doctors refusing to treat them) and what Guru highlighted today.
Fact is they are taking advantage of the West and consider you to be a bunch of fools.

Ruwani wrote:

The Tamil community in Britian is a hard working and intelligent community

Yeah sure sure. Tell that to someone who hasn't watched a Tamil movie. From the time is starts all you will see is someone taking an Axe and splitting other human beings into pieces. That will then be followed by tamil women crying their lungs out (I call it the Jaffna Symphony Orchestra ). LOL!

So true Ruwani.

Tamil Cinema in India has been churning how violent rape, mutilation and hacking to death films since its inception in the 1950s.
Clearly there is a market for these films as they have never stopped producing such violent and disgusting movies, which sell incredibly fast.

Its also hilarious how they roll around on the floor and scream in front of white people about their self inflicted "plight"- yet they never try that in front of a North Indian, Malaysia, Chinese etc basically never in front of non-whites, for the simple reason non-whites are fully aware of their lies, deception and disgusting violent culture (as mentioned in the article) and do not fall for their little shows of "pain".
After all in Asian countries millions of people suffer being in third world situations, most have it WORSE than Tamils do in Sri Lanka. Yet white people believe their tears are real and believe that what is happening to them is happening because they are Tamil and thus being "discriminated". Yet millions go through the same third world destitution every day. And least we forget the oppressive Tamil caste system as I mentioned in an early post yesterday (e.g. High caste Tamils banning the low castes and ultra low castes from Hindu Temples, Tamil doctors refusing to treat them) and what Guru highlighted today.
Fact is they are taking advantage of the West and consider you to be a bunch of fools.

Simply put, Tamils are economic refugees who are taking advantage of the West to get away from a third world set up.

What sets them apart is the manner in which they easily play the race card, quickly leading to the "discrimination" and "genocide" cards.

Sun,

What I am saying is a fact about these tamil movies. Also, have you heard about how Tamils used to become Doctors/Engineers etc. in the 60s? Have you heard about the OM symbol in thier exam papers? The fact is they are born cheats . They will lie like trojans, my husband is a Director in a leading company in Colombo, he never trusts his Tamil subjects.

THIS IS NOTHING with respect to what Tamil LTTE does in Sri Lanka . Brithith people open your eyes . please help Sri Lankan Govenment to finish this TAMIL LTTE menance . IF NOT YOU will be next target like "RAJIV GHANDI" Priminister in india .He helped thsese guys initially . HE was murderd by these LTTE like a street dog .

please visit following site to learn more about them

http://www.spur.asn.
au/

You will really learn who are the people you are harbouring if you visit the above site

I am a Sri Lankan Sinhalese. We should not paint all the Tamils as terrorists. There are lots of Tamils who are victims of the LTTE. Just imagine how many Tamils were killed by the LTTE terrorists because they did not agree with the LTTE. Think about Mr. Kadiragamar, Thiruchelvam and the mayors of Jaffna and Madakalapuwa (Batticalo). Sinhalese never discriminated Tamils. I agree that there were some administrative changes we should have introduced to Sri Lanka long time ago. Not division, but decentralize some of the administrative functions to provide govt. services to poor people regardless of where they live not just North but also down south and Central province. We experience some issues related to education. Some of our politicians messed up the system by taking away English Education as well as not teaching Tamil as a required language in our school system. We do not have to be Tamil language experts but to communicate with 12 percent of our fellow citizens to understand what they have to tell us. Learning a language is an advantage, it opens up many job opportunities. So called Tamil leaders from the 50’s and 60’s always try to cling on to power by discriminating majority of innocent Tamils by degrading them as low casts. They never gave an opportunity for the central government to reach those low cast Tamils. Tamil politicians kept Jaffna away from the rest the country. Our politicians also supported the status quo rather than addressing the issue with a long term vision. The LTTE is taking advantage of this situation. Schools need to teach all three languages to serve the people and build the country. Tamils are integral part of the SriLankan fabric. Greater Tamil population has to understand that this is not a racial issue but a economic and social issue. Interracial marriage was banned in USA until 1967. Sri Lanka never had that kind of discrimination. Tamils and Sinhalese went to same schools, same restaurants, traveled in the same bus and same trains sitting next to each other. We worked under Sinhalese administrators as well as Tamil administrators without any complains about their race, and with lot of respect for the position and the individual. Some of the writers think Tamils are bunch of “Kallathonis”. Jaffna Tamils too have this sort of distorted ideas about Sinhalese people. This is a good example of ignorance that could address through the school system. We need to revisit our civic and history curricula. We need to appreciate the influence of different cultures that make the Sri Lankan culture rich and colorful. At the same time we need to eliminate the LTTE leadership. Solutions for the problems in Sri Lanka cannot be import. It has to come from the people of Sri Lanka. Except very few countries, most of the western powers are playing games with the situation. They bring all sorts of conditions, and they are controlled by reasons other than humanity. They see the problem only from the eyes of the people they are associating and comfortable with. Sri Lankans especially the Sinhalese people has to understand in this game they have no one to help except themselves. They have a leader who is willing to take all the risks to save the country, bring peace and unity. It is time to support him.

Paul Sathi wrote:
The Tamil community in Britian is a hard working and intelligent
community, who have integrated well into British Society. These incude
BBC's George Alagiah, MTV's Tim Kash and the Singer MIA, just to name a
few of the high profile ones. There are a few members in our society
which cause trouble and they need to be dealt with by the firm hand of
the law. The Tamil community should also assist the police in all
investigationsif they have information. One thing the readers
must understand is that there are certain organisations/people
supported by the Sri lankan government who will do what it takes to
discredit the Tamil community and highlight any actions in the
media , as you can see from the comments below. How can the
actions of four thugs, two of whom are not even Tamil be the fault of
the entire Taml community.

People like George Aligiah came to Britain at 10 or 11. They are more British than Sri Lankan. As for MIA, she pretends to be some freedom fighter just to sell her CDs in the hip hop industry. Her lyrics always talk up violence and if I remember right, she was refused a visa to enter the USA for sympathising with LTTE terrorism.

I personally think that the Tamils in general have a massive chip on their shoulders. Tamils(the majority) are trouble makers wherer ever they go and live.

I won't be surprised when the Tamils ask for a separate state within the UK in about 200 years from now.

Tamils need to integrate rather than ghettoising...may it be in the West or East.

Tigress19 wrote:
I was conscripted as a 13 year old child by the LTTE. I was abused, physically, mentally and sexually by my trainers. I finally escaped from Jaffna and made my way to Colombo and finally the UK. I am a refugee. Now I live in a country where I am not made welcome because I am a tamil. I owe the UK nothing. I work for my bread, and I have had to work in petrol stations or supermarkets and even as a cleaner of toilets. I have no guilt engaging in credit card theft etc. Why shouldn't I when this country never helped my people back in Sri Lanka against the racist sinhalese and the murderous LTTE? We get our separate country and we will leave your godforsaken UK happily.

..And finally to UK? Look at the map: we're on the other side of the world, for crying out loud! So what are you doing here when you could have sought refuge in dozens of countries that were far closer, both geographically and culturally?
I hope the granting of asylum and refugee status is something that will be looked at very closely by a future British government, who will then remove those here under false pretences - at which time you will have no choice about leaving my country, "happily" or not.

The police need to investigate if these hoodlums had any battle field training as terrorists. They certainly look like that they beahve like tamil terrorists who go around machetting innocent sinhala farm workers in the border areas in sri lanka. The police must really look nto this. I also disagree calling them they are sri lankans. They may now be british, because it is the british who are harbouring these criminals and giving them money and other support which they channel to terrorist organizations. They may be tamil terrorists, and certainly not peaceful sri lankan citizens who are here to study or develop their life in a socially acceptable way.

These Tamil boys professing terrorist leader Prabakaran must have a serious look on the damage the latter has done to the decent & intellectual outlook Tamils enjoyed world over. LTTE leader spends only 18% of its annual income from drug trafficking, weapon deals, ships, human smuggling & extortions for the fight. Balance 82% is deposited in Norwegian banks in his personal name (LTTE is not a Limited Liability company with reporting responsibilities). These boys are killing each other, tarnishing UK just to make someone else rich!

Funny and sad how so many people use these unfortunate events to expose their own agenda in public.

The four violent gangsters who were born in the UK happen to be Asian - 2 are of Tamil ancestry.

That is all!

Nothing to do with Tamil culture or Asian culture.

Are we then to go by the comments made by the Sinhalese and suppose that that is the way of the Sinhalese culture?

Well there are loads of tamil haters out there but Gang violence has nothing to do with the Tamil culture what so ever.Just because a very small fraction of tamil youth have a high tendancy of commiting violent crime doesnt mean that tamils on a whole are a menace to the society.Most of these boyz grew up in violent neigbourhoods and the urban culture is to be blamed over here and blaming a whole race is an over the top accusation(well for sinhalese its a totally viable argument,thats another story..)
FOr the sinhalese who seems to be hell bent to believe that Tamils are the soul perpetrators of "THE most evil of deeds" plz check your local news paper(by the way tamils arent LTTE),you get loads of stories of murder and rape connecting to an army deserter almost everyday single day.And yeah then there is the black july,a genocidal attempt by the so called "peace loving culture "

Funny and sad how so many people use these unfortunate events to expose their own agenda in public.

The four violent gangsters who were born in the UK happen to be Asian - 2 are of Tamil ancestry.

That is all!

Nothing to do with Tamil culture or Asian culture.

Are we then to go by the comments made by the Sinhalese and suppose that that is the way of the Sinhalese culture?

ANDREW wrote:
FOR ALL TAMILS PACK YOUR THINGS ITS TIME TO GOBACK WHERE YOU COM FROM, BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE DOGS,CREDIT CART THIVES AND MAINLY YOU ALL ARE LTTE DONT FORGET YOUR ALL HAVE I SKIN

Andrew,
yes and a no for your thoughts.

Yezs they do dodge credit cards, they raise funds for terror, take violence

Your political system took them in (they got nothing when they came here, and now has equal rights as you)But they dont realise what they got from you.I think this is goes inline with muslim terror groups as well

In the case of Tamils, they dont have any place to go, but they are all over the globe, including Canada, US, AUS, ANd EU , not to forget south india and north Sri lanka

Sri lanka fighting to chase the Tamil terror.
Uk based AMnesty International and Human Right watch are asking Srilankan Authorities, to protech HR, (How you britons look in to terror)
How different is that from the way you look at OSAMA and Tamil terrorists or LTTE

for UK
Clean up your act , terror is terror where every you go and dont look at it in color glasses.

For Tamils, you all have come to UK , and living on benifits , not paying any tax, and decxtroying this country as well.

EXCEPT, the community which are highly educated and at the highest postions (Andrew You dnt know there are amazingly educated and talented Tamils, so dont bring the skin issue, then you look like an idiot

As a brit vote for a government for political correctness, your 200 years of ruling all over the world has brough all this crappy people in to uk


Further, I am not tamil, and i dont have the same skin.

I agree with the general thoughts, except that idiotic thought of skin

Treat people one the basis of who they are and what they do
dont treat terrorsits else where like legitimate brits here

respect people , you will earn respect

finally help those un educated to get a proper education and life, dont hate them , hate your governments

Rana wrote:
These Tamil boys professing terrorist leader Prabakaran must have a
serious look on the damage the latter has done to the decent &
intellectual outlook Tamils enjoyed world over. LTTE leader spends only
18% of its annual income from drug trafficking, weapon deals, ships,
human smuggling & extortions for the fight. Balance 82% is
deposited in Norwegian banks in his personal name (LTTE is not a
Limited Liability company with reporting responsibilities). These boys
are killing each other, tarnishing UK just to make someone else rich!

We are thankful that these people have left our shores and landed in the WEstern world. The biggest sympathisers of the LTTE are its Western friends. So they might as well deal with this troubled community. Good riddance!

Even their fellow brothers from Tamil Nadu refuse to accept these violence thugs.

TAMIL VOICE wrote:
TAMILS ARENT THUGS IT\\\\\\\'S YOU LOT WHO ARE THE THUGS. YOU PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF CULTURE. YOU LOT SLEEP WITH A GIRL EVERYDAY AND YOU GET MARRIED TO ONE PERSON THEN YOU GET DIVORCED AND YOU GET MARRIED AGAIN. YEH THATS A PERFECT CULTURE INIT..YOU **** BASTARDS GO AND MIND YOUR OWN **** PROBLEMS..**** TRAMPS

i heard recently you Tamils send a 5 months Pregnet tamil girl to kill srilankans Army chief

He survived , but is that human nature
i donth think so
first get a proper education ,a d get justificvation to what you say
what you are doing is not accepted by the decent sociaety no matter where you live

I would definitely like to take it up there by Dr Rama Mani.

brown_brapper@lankan
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Yeh Boii, Jaffna Brapperzz is da Boz on da West Croydonz,Tonton heath, Tooting sw17, Eastham, all Londonz st..You talk Big .**** u biatchhh...HATERZ DIPPP....PRABHAKARAN
... Brapp..Brapp..

Well first and foremost it has been a great insult for people to compare the LTTE and such Tamil gangs. Being a British Sri Lankan Tamil being born in England, I have always performed average with my education but such results have been portrayed as shameful for such a competitive and intelligent society. Many students who are Tamil exceed in their studies and many get 10 a stars for their GCSE's and work in top companies. This can be proven if people take stats of Tamils. However, depressingly enough there are disadvantages with everything and Tamil gangs are spoiling our reputation. But one has to consider that there are much more good Tamil citizens in Britain that there are bad ones. Many perform well in studies, are well all arounders and succeed in sports and music too. However, gangs with tamils is in the rise and this is as previously many illegal immigrants were in gangs as they could not work or study but now even for many school boys their one and only aim is to be in a gang for power, popularity and for ladies. It is shameful that this is occurring but it has nothing to do with the others of the population. I do not agree with the LTTE as they kill people but many countries do that and so does Britain going to Iraq. There is no possible connection between these stupid, uneducated guys and the LTTE. The LTTE was formed for the freedom struggle of all Tamil citizens and necessities such as education, hospitals and other welfare benefits was not a norm for Tamils. However, it also occured as when the British had their power in Sri Lanka and had many tea plants and many Tamils prospered and the Government saw many Tamils prospering and gradually got segregated as a result. In Sri Lanka there are many headlines of Tamils but their against the government but the government does a lot of bad too. Many people support the LTTE as they understand and are willing to be part of the freedom struggle but that has no correlation with bloody idiots spoiling our names. I ask for anyone who reads my comments to see that their propagandists who would use anything against Tamils in Lanka or anywhere else. The Tsunami was a real example where the government was even heartless to help the tamils then and one should wonder how Tamils do so Brilliant in England and not in Sri Lanka. Many Tamils are sociable, very nice, very educated and one should get to know the whole population before judging. However, if the British government should read this I will say that many Tamils are afraid to walk out our doorsteps because of such gangs and it is not just Tamils but other ethnic minorities that help them with their causes. They fail to understand the value of life itself and how it affects other Tamils when their family members pass away when their already scared about the situation back home. There should be a restriction to Tamil guys aged between 15-30 but their should be considerations about their situation back home and one cannot assume that they will turn to gangsters when they come here and should be merited for their own individuality.

And to be honest there should be a lot more work done against these gangs and they should be arrested and imprisoned. And these boys manage just to get away with crime and there should be a ban on it and more evidence against them but it is hard to call us witnesses as we will be then dead as they will kill us before you guys can give security. But remember it just some guys spoiling such a good and contributing society. And I am nt being insultive but there would be no corner shops now where Tamil parents work 24 hours now to gain a living and doctors and lawyers and accountants which make us very proud of being Tamil. And for someone who talked about Tamil films well at the moment to be honest there is a norm for a hero to beat up many villains but this portrays that bad men will be punished and that justice wins and gangs do not do this and sorry but the Tamil film industry is a very capable one and has produced AR RAHMAN, Mani Ratnam, Kamal Haasan and others. It is true that Sri Lankan Muslims and Singalese people do not have such gangs but just remember that it is just a few idiotic citizens.

Oi and one more thing some comments have been really disgusting. Britain was a country that gave Bin Laden power in the 70s to get rid of comminism and supplied him with money and power and now it is going against them. Now Ak-Qaeda is known as terrorists which is fair enough as all these groups kill people but how about England and USA LOLLLLLL. You guys are still taking lives and ur men in armies are dying too and Iraq pictures are revolting too as men are being abused. It was u who gave Sadam power in 1991 so what does these facts say against you guys but to be honest this has nothing to do with public as normal British people are the most welcoming and respecting people around but now are young society is changing that too. But it is our nation a great nation (England) that went against the country when they went to Iraq. But many things are dependent on money, power and oil. But one cannot blame the USA as they have money and power and any rich nation would want to get richer. But Britan never looks at their own mistakes too as the British Empire was bad but it did many brilliant things to countries too such as helping them with transport and building hospitals but they also ruled many nations and sorry but this suggestion might be extreme but what did Hitler try doing taking other countries such as the BRITISH empire and also tried to take revenge after their treatment at World War 1. England ruled Sri Lanka and made it unsettle. It is justifiable and British hearts realise that they should allow Tamils in the country as long as they are peaceful but if they are not and if they have only 1 criminal bad record being TAMIL they should be deported back straight away.

Shaan Theva wrote:
Look all these comments...In Every culture there some corrupted ones..exmplse \"Mafias\" what happen...u ppl saying all those cultures are corrupted.. Do any one of you know..that How many tamils are CEO of Many Large Companies In your own countries..Doctors, Surgents...All those thing you ppl don\'t see.. All you ppl knw are the corrupted ones..cuz u are one them too.........u live them to....thats why

You are deviating from the point. In all world communities there are CEOs, Doctors, Intellectuals Etc. But only in the Sri Lankan Tamil community you find Extreme Hatered and Violance against mankind.

Some shameless British MPs are fully dependent on Tamil Votes to be in Parliament and support Tamil Terrorism. But they do not realize the damage they are doing to their own Country and the Society by supporting these Terrotists to freely operate in UK.

Thanks to these Hypocrit MPs, BBC and other money hungry NGOs backed by LTTE operating from London, very soon UK will be facing what Sri Lanka is facing today.

A Sri Lankan Tamil British Citizen wrote:
Well first and foremost it has been a great insult for people to compare the LTTE and such Tamil gangs. Being a British Sri Lankan Tamil being born in England, I have always performed average with my education but such results have been portrayed as shameful for such a competitive and intelligent society. Many students who are Tamil exceed in their studies and many get 10 a stars for their GCSE\'s and work in top companies. This can be proven if people take stats of Tamils. However, depressingly enough there are disadvantages with everything and Tamil gangs are spoiling our reputation. But one has to consider that there are much more good Tamil citizens in Britain that there are bad ones. Many perform well in studies, are well all arounders and succeed in sports and music too. However, gangs with tamils is in the rise and this is as previously many illegal immigrants were in gangs as they could not work or study but now even for many school boys their one and only aim is to be in a gang for power, popularity and for ladies. It is shameful that this is occurring but it has nothing to do with the others of the population. I do not agree with the LTTE as they kill people but many countries do that and so does Britain going to Iraq. There is no possible connection between these stupid, uneducated guys and the LTTE. The LTTE was formed for the freedom struggle of all Tamil citizens and necessities such as education, hospitals and other welfare benefits was not a norm for Tamils. However, it also occured as when the British had their power in Sri Lanka and had many tea plants and many Tamils prospered and the Government saw many Tamils prospering and gradually got segregated as a result. In Sri Lanka there are many headlines of Tamils but their against the government but the government does a lot of bad too. Many people support the LTTE as they understand and are willing to be part of the freedom struggle but that has no correlation with bloody idiots spoiling our names. I ask for anyone who reads my comments to see that their propagandists who would use anything against Tamils in Lanka or anywhere else. The Tsunami was a real example where the government was even heartless to help the tamils then and one should wonder how Tamils do so Brilliant in England and not in Sri Lanka. Many Tamils are sociable, very nice, very educated and one should get to know the whole population before judging. However, if the British government should read this I will say that many Tamils are afraid to walk out our doorsteps because of such gangs and it is not just Tamils but other ethnic minorities that help them with their causes. They fail to understand the value of life itself and how it affects other Tamils when their family members pass away when their already scared about the situation back home. There should be a restriction to Tamil guys aged between 15-30 but their should be considerations about their situation back home and one cannot assume that they will turn to gangsters when they come here and should be merited for their own individuality.

You Tamils in UK are the supporters of these Tamil Gangs who are part of LTTE Terrorists.

That is the very reason why they are not scared to to carry out any criminal act.

But when things go wrong you guys start shedding crocadile tears on behalf of the Tamil community. It is too late now as the slide has already started.

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The Patriot wrote:
Some shameless British MPs are fully dependent on Tamil Votes to be in
Parliament and support Tamil Terrorism. But they do not realize the
damage they are doing to their own Country and the Society by
supporting these Terrotists to freely operate in UK.
Thanks to these Hypocrit MPs, BBC and other money hungry NGOs backed by
LTTE operating from London, very soon UK will be facing what Sri Lanka
is facing today.

Let's start naming and shaming them.

Kieth Vaz, Simon Hughes, Jeremy Corbyn, Gareth Thomas and a few more.

As for me, I am glad that the Brits have taken the troublesome Tamils and welcomed them. They'll repay this favour by demanding a separate state in Tooting.

Patriot ur such a dum ****. these tamil gangs have no correlation with the ltte if they were they wouldnt have weapons such as cricket bats and ****. dey are against the cause of the ltte who went a seperate homeland these idiotic guys just want to be al popular and shw a few tmls cant live togetha. if ur cleve u shud understand but ur nt and ur jus using this is as propaganda cos u fink ur cleve. and these mps see the truth abt tamils while u guys r too shallow too look at al tmls and see hw they bring success to england.

Well the worst are black gangs. There are other gangs such as other minority gangs such as pakistan gangs. anyways u send these people and these communities too. what the hell ru guys on abt. ru gne send al blak people bak to africa. jus because there are a few bad black citizens out there when there are many good ones. youth crime is increasing so much and its nt only the tamils so send all ur white guys back but no u wont because their british and u kno wot we r british sri lankans too cos we r proud of england wen u guys r nt. i think u lost ur case mates..

This is the problem Sri lanka has faced for several decades. Tamil gangs were creating problems in Sri lanka and though they were immigrants in our own country they have laid a claim to a bout one third of it. The tamils were brought to sri lanka by the dutch to work as indentured labourers in the tobacco lands of Sri lanka and the british also improted many hundered thoudans to dilute the ethnic specifity of the country.the British now have an experience of what we have been going through.

All Tamils know is violence.

In India, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Fuji, Mauritius, South Africa, Canada, America, Britain, Norway, France and Germany, they cause problems.

They simple breed violence and then blame someone else.

They as a people never accept responsibility for any of their actions always throwing some excuse and pushing this "victim" idea.

Tamils are a deceptive, manipulative, extremely violent and unthankful people. The reason they show no appreciation and carry out maximum exploitation is because they think they are racially superior to others. Hence the reason that they always think and act as though they have done no wrong and yell "stop being anti-Tamil" when you expose them, tell them (and others) about the violence they are born with and show to all how they never take responsibility for ANY of their actions. They seem to act like whatever they do is right -because they believe they are a racially superior people. Whenever they carry out a murder, criminal activities and terrorist activities (like in Sri Lanka) they come out with statements like: "this is because of blah blah". They brutally kill and hurt people who protect them, feed them, treat them as equals and give them everything they need to feel welcome (like the Sinhalese in Sri Lanka) and then say "we are the victim, NOT the people who we just blew up or hacked to pieces".

They are a dangerous people who need to be viewed with suspicion and distrust if you want to live in safe and prosperous society.

All Tamils know is violence.

In India, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Fuji, Mauritius, South Africa, Canada, America, Britain, Norway, France and Germany, they cause problems.

They simple breed violence and then blame someone else.

They as a people never accept responsibility for any of their actions always throwing some excuse and pushing this "victim" idea.

Tamils are a deceptive, manipulative, extremely violent and unthankful people. The reason they show no appreciation and carry out maximum exploitation is because they think they are racially superior to others. Hence the reason that they always think and act as though they have done no wrong and yell "stop being anti-Tamil" when you expose them, tell them (and others) about the violence they are born with and show to all how they never take responsibility for ANY of their actions. They seem to act like whatever they do is right -because they believe they are a racially superior people. Whenever they carry out a murder, criminal activities and terrorist activities (like in Sri Lanka) they come out with statements like: "this is because of blah blah". They brutally kill and hurt people who protect them, feed them, treat them as equals and give them everything they need to feel welcome (like the Sinhalese in Sri Lanka) and then say "we are the victim, NOT the people who we just blew up or hacked to pieces".

They are a dangerous people who need to be viewed with suspicion and distrust if you want to live in safe and prosperous society.

LTTE has no connection to this, i feel for krish, he neva did nefing yet has got a sentance, why? gang culture, this is not jus at tamils, nothing to wid LTTE its gangs overall, u get blak gangs asian gangs so many gangs with many deaths

'Sri-Lankan British Citizen' because you rounded everything really well. The hatred comments on here about just Tamils is completely racist, immature and clearly very uneducated..includin

g you NIEL (ooh the Doctor!!). Both the sinhalese and LTTE are JUST as violent towards each other. Few years back the sinhalese army bombed a young girls orphange, LTTE bombed a bus with children.. BOTH are are clearly in the wrong. People move from Sri-lanka to get a better life like me, to get away from the war and the unfairness. Living here for 18years, and now a graduated doctor. Don't any of you dare to group all Tamils together because there are gangs, murderers, rapists, theives in every corner in the world because of upbringing or psychological reasons. Those people who have commented with so much hate and racism are stuck up white people, who think they know everything, when in fact they actually go killing to get what they want (DOES 'OIL' RING A BELL??). Do you know Ian Huntley?? He RAPED two young kids and killed them, he's born and Bred in the UK... HAROLD SHIPMAN who killed 215 patients (OH MY GOD..guess what... hes a white, british Doctor!) Two of the above boys are NON-TAMILS.
Muslims, blacks, and every minority group have astonishing people with great high acheivements, just to name some Mohammed Ali and the hopeful USA president Obama. A young tamil lady, 'Mia' a singer who does songs with Timbaland and Missy Elliot and also Ramachandran a Neuroscientist Director Professor at UC San Diego!!

'Mr Patriotic'.. ye funny name... the way you talk sounds like 1. you clearly have no social life and don't know how to interact with other people
2. your most likely talking about yourself in those comments to be that low and critical.

About the credit cards and fraud etc. you think tamils are the only ones, statistics show differently, i'm afraid statistics show something rather different!
As much as i love Britain and the people, some of the poeple show NO culture and quite frankly the british culture for a few are appaling. Children smoking and drinking at 9, getting drunk and having fights after clubs, pubs, 'chavs', english girls getting pregnant at 12, girls having sex from 10, Uk has the highest divorce rates. I'm not saying Tamil culture is perfect becuase its not, every culture is different and has its flaws, but take a look at yours first and see the corruption, money stealing wives (gold-diggers), swearing abusive children etc (or just watch the Jeremy Kyle show!! Hah!)

The boys in this incident got what was coming to them, they were murderers, LTTE AND Sinhalese army are both hated and both kill the innocent, and the Sri-lankan government doesn't know how to rule the country, having such a beautiful, warm country which could do better without a war.

I'm Tamil, smart, beautiful, talented...and could save your life and i love it! but i also love being in this country with my non-tamil (white, black, muslims, egyptian, spanish) and tamil friends who have an understanding of what to say appropriately and repect people and avoid losers like a few commenters above.

i sooooooooo agree!
i think some of the people are clearly jealous of Tamils cos they so eager to travel and what not to get a TAN but are too pale so they just burn..

and burn in hell for the things they say. KARMA baby... it'l come get u eventually..

Love my Tamilz still and my non racial whites :-) !!!

Hello everybody,

first I need to mention that LTTE is NOT a terroristic organisation. Tamil Tigers fight for peace in Sri Lanka for tamil people. Because the sri lankan government is killing tamil people (see also students in killinochi) LTTE is fighting for the rights of tamils and want to have an own state called Tamil Eelam. Do you mean this violent? Ha,ha, ha what a shame. LTTE is not like the sri lankan army. LTTE is fighting for free and the srilankan army is doing only their job FOR MONEY.

Now to the above case. Tamil gangs have NO LINK with LTTE. The cause for their behaviour depends on their famly's education and how they helped to grow their child. So it is right to punish them for what they have done.

Shanthi wrote:
Hello everybody,
first I need to mention that LTTE is NOT a terroristic organisation.
Tamil Tigers fight for peace in Sri Lanka for tamil people. Because the
sri lankan government is killing tamil people (see also students in
killinochi) LTTE is fighting for the rights of tamils and want to have
an own state called Tamil Eelam. Do you mean this violent? Ha,ha, ha
what a shame. LTTE is not like the sri lankan army. LTTE is fighting
for free and the srilankan army is doing only their job FOR MONEY. Now
to the above case. Tamil gangs have NO LINK with LTTE. The cause for
their behaviour depends on their famly\'s education and how they helped
to grow their child. So it is right to punish them for what they have
done.

Shanthi, according to you, the violent LTTE terrorists who practice suicide terrorism should be rewarded?

If Tamils want peace and rights, then they should follow the path of democracy and non-violence. Isn't that what the much respected TULF and the recently formed political party TMVP are doing righjt now? I know the latter party was involved in terrorism as well in the past but look how they have reformed and given much wanted rights to the Tamils.

Tamils all over must also accept that in democracy, the majority will always rule.

its nothing to do with ltte or any of that stuff...idiots...its about croydon vs. tooting

wotever

It maybe that the Croydon incident is inter gang rivalry. The fact remains that the LTTE in Sri Lanka is a ruthless body attacking the world's social fabric. How blind are they who refuse to see! The tigers will, if given sympathy, prove that they are inhuman and cannot sated until they ruin Sri Lanka and then their neighbours. OPen your eyes all.

Sunil Panabokke wrote:
It maybe that the Croydon incident is inter gang rivalry. The fact remains that the LTTE in Sri Lanka is a ruthless body attacking the world's social fabric. How blind are they who refuse to see! The tigers will, if given sympathy, prove that they are inhuman and cannot sated until they ruin Sri Lanka and then their neighbours. OPen your eyes all.

oh dear... another stupid, uneducated, naive, mindless sinhalese from Sri-Lanka. The only news u hear is from the government tellin u how bad LTTE is, and how amazin the government is..HAHAHA oh well. THE FACT IS....
LTTE, the sinhalese ARMY, and the government n police f**ked up u stupid boy cz they killin innocents. When a group of us went to Sri-lanka my friend got raped by two men in the Sri-lankan army 4years ago, n wen we went 2 the police f*** all was done! So dont sit their typing thinking u lot are angels from heaven, cos ur not..at all. You might b succeeding in Sri-Lanka due to numbers alone, but elsewer Sinhalese are piece of sh** and people don't even know that ur race actually exists! hurts dont it? oh well.

Expand ur knowledge a bit and it might get u somewer in life. how many times has it been mentioned in this article that it has nothin 2 do wiv LTTE?? Those hu mentioned LTTE..why are u so dum!!! seriously, all those names who mentioned LTTE in relation 2 these boys in this article need 2 get a life or a brain! cos these guys killed due to area rivallary.

ok y is this going into a major arguement over a race? this article has nothing to do wiv the LTTE, n am i being extremely stupid or r dere some non-tamils involved in this crime too? as a tamil myself, i wont deny the fact dat they hv issues, but the actions of these 'gangs' doesnt represent all of us, jst fink of all the messd up stuff otha cultures do

I might be getting the wrong end of the stick but most of the comments on here are either glorifying violence or labelling every Tamil as a terrorist. Could it be that both parties are right or neither. From my experience most Tamil's are addicted to crack and sexually assault old people but they are certainly not all terrorists. That was sarcastic by the way. But seriously a lot of the comments on here are borderline racism and it seems to be the age old tit-for-tat Tamil-Sinhalese-Army
-LTTE argument. Surely by fleeing the country you are all admitting that something is wrong with it and would like to change the way you approach each other. Can't you all stop being so tempermental and make friends.

Peace out

I think we Sinhalese and Tamils who are caught up in this endless fight should realise these:

1. Sinhalese friends: Just because Tamil people raise their voice against oppression does NOT mean they are all 'terrorists'. Do NOT link them with the LTTE at once and start cursing them as terrorists. That is wrong. Don't Tamils have legitimate grievances? We don't have to go that far, just look at the 'Sinhala only' act in 1956 and how very much difficult it is for a Tamil person to get on their lives when it comes to simple administrative matters in the South.

Most armies, whether Sri Lankan or any other, when they have arms and the licence to kill, what do they do? We have examples from Sri Lanka, Iraq, everywhere! We must not forget that armies are NOT there to 'protect' us from our 'enemies'!!! We know how the Sri Lankan army behaved when they suppressed the successive JVP uprisings! Have we forgotten how dreadfully scared we were when the army started raiding our villages to search for the JVPers at that time? How can they become our saviours all of a sudden when they point their guns to Tamil people?

Do NOT take me wrong, I am not just making general statements and say that the SL army is killing innocent Tamil people indiscriminately. I only want to make my point clear here.

After all who are our enemies? The Tamils? They are our own kith and kin. They are just like us, they have the same blood, they also feel hunger, they get hurt and they do get angry! They have the same right to respectful birth, life and death!

2. Tami friends: Please don't in the same way sideline all Sinhalese people as 'anti-Tamil' and pro-government/s, when they talk about the atrocities of the LTTE. There are thousands of progressive Sinhalese who have opposed to and who are opposing to successive Sri Lankan governments when it comes to the ethnic issue. Have your 'freedom fighters' taken any steps to collect these progressive voices into their camp?

Tamils in particular have suffered so much because of this endless bloody war. Many in the South (of Sri Lanka) cannot imagine what it really means!!!

The Tamil groups took up the arms at one point of time in history. But look at what directions this struggle has taken shape. The LTTE soon started killing other Tamil groups and today it has become a ruthless totalitarian regime! When I talk like this please do not align me (or anybody) as pro-SL government. I am not.

It's really unfortunate that 'freedom fighters' of the North do not recognise the oppression of the poor in the South! Bombs set upon innocent and poorer civilians in the South (at least some for the sake of arguments), carry the hallmarks of the LTTE, this is not just SL govt propaganda!

The LTTE systematically isolates the Tamils from the rest. We all know about ethnic cleansing of the North and the East, about the eternally 'Internally Displaced Persons' - Muslims esp. of Jaffna!

If you look at the freedom struggles in the world, the LTTE doesn't seem to have learnt any lessons on them!

So, while you are being passionate about LTTE being "freedom fighters", OR, dream that they are 'freedom fighters', to most in the World they are not! That is jot just because the SL govt propaganda!!!

You cannot be totally blind to the fact that thousands of Tamil politicians, intellectuals, scholars have been and are being killed by the LTTE just because they have different voices, opinions?! Just look at world renowned Tamil scholarls like Professor Ratnajeewan S. Hoole - the Vice Chancellor of Jaffna. Recently at a seminar in Toronto he said that these so called 'freedom fighters' who talks about the oppressive majoritarian rule of the South does the very same thing when it comes to minorities in the North and the East.

How many of you can even slightly turn your tongues to criticise the LTTE, whether you are in Sri Lanka or anywhere in the world?

Professor Ratnajeewan Hoole happens to be a Sri Lankan Tamil Christian who were fortunate enough to flee Sri Lanka before the LTTE killed him and his family. Even while he was in Toronto, he was under heavy police guard!!!!!

Look at what Amnesty International is telling about the LTTE!

Where has the LTTE taken your struggle? Nowhere! The LTTE has become such a dead end when it comes to promoting your rights and freedom!!! Sooner or later you will have to understand this truth, that your future does not within the LTTE. We all must seriously think about these things, the bare, harsh realities of freedom struggle/s instead of blindly taking sides. You have the most timely and important task to take the LTTE to task if you ever wish to proceed!!!

3. All of us: It's time to see wrong as wrong irrespective of who does it! We are humans after all; either together we survive, thrive or separated we perish!!!

Yeh man, what he said.

rama wrote:
look who is talking about violence.sinhala geezers are the fore runners and pioneers of all forms of violence whether it is physical or sexual.in fact violence is the trade mark of sinhala geezers.if you look at the history of sri lanka there has been several race riots where sinhala barbarians,thugs,sav ages,hoodlums killed innocent tamils who have been living in the south.they killed innocent tamil men, women and children in their thousands. sinhala hoodlums looted tamil property and raped tamil women. even the sinhala buddhist monks are notorious thugs and criminals.sinhala buddhists monks are thugs,murderers,rapi sts and pedophiles.i don\'t want to go to lengths to describe their abnormal behaviour.however,i give you two examples. not long ago four sinhala geezers were beheaded in the kingdom for armed robbery.in haiti sinhala peace keepers were kicked out by UN for molesting and indecently assaulting underaged girls. the same sinhala geezers paid money to the haitian prostitutes for services rendered. sinhala geezers this is your background. tamils i feel must have learnt violence from you.kettle calling pot black.

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Where are you from Rama? looks like Prabhakaran's Brother-in-law.
You bloody Kallathoni talks noncens. Innocent and genuin Tamils who live peacefully among Sinhalese and Muslims in various parts of Srilanka doesn't talk bulshit like you. Decent tamils migrated to the west long time ago for further studies and better propects. Your type of brainless idiots entered the westen countries illegally by paying ransoms to LLTE human smugglers and now filling patrol in English gas stations, violating every possible things, steeling credit cards, pickpocketing, smuggling drugs. Educated Tamils never condems your birth place nor your inhabitants. Only the Kallathoni are the LTTE supporters. Kallathoni swam across to Ceylon as there is not a single inch of land or a shade or a job to do in Tamilnadu. If you wanted a seperate state face reality, come and talk. Nominate yourself as a candidate, Let your relatives, friends and neigbors vote for you to come to the parliment. You are so ****ing selfish and ranaway leaving your loved ones, relatives for them to suffer LTTE dictatorship by paying for unlawful conditions.
All Tamil politicians living in all over Srilanka including those in Jaffna were eliminated by your god father Prabha. Why did he kill Laksman Kadiragamar, Prabha should have appointed him as no#2 rather killing. Prabha is sending all abducted tamil girls (including pregnant girls) to blow themselves. Even Tamilnadu hates Kallathoni.

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ive been reading the comments ppl write. at the end of the day, u r discriminating if u say TAMIL. black ppl everyday are in the news for shootings. deport them all back to africa... considering that the majority of immigrants are illegal, this says a lot, that they are not genuine in their asylum claims. so refuse them at port. problem solved

ANON wrote:
ive been reading the comments ppl write. at the end of the day, u r discriminating if u say TAMIL. black ppl everyday are in the news for shootings. deport them all back to africa... considering that the majority of immigrants are illegal, this says a lot, that they are not genuine in their asylum claims. so refuse them at port. problem solved

Hahah

The whole world is discriminating against poor Tamils!
Its not Tamils fault they are violent, go around hacking people to death carry out terrorist and criminal activity in India, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Canada, Britain, South Africa, Australia, France, Italy, Norway, Sweden, Germany, Switzerland, Italy and any other country your breeding in, creating homelands, freeloading off the system and just causing problems of a criminal, violent and terrorist nature.

Its everyone else fault but yours!

http://www.asiantrib
une.com/?q=node/1188
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Another gang attack on a fellow Tamil Gang.

Vellupillai wrote:
http://www.asiantrib une.com/?q=node/1188 8 Another gang attack on a fellow Tamil Gang.

Well, well, well.
Another fantastic story about Srilankan Tamils. I cannot stop tears on my eyes. Sin, poor innocent, enducated Tamil boys.....ha...ha...h
aa
Are they educated parent's uneducated innocent Srilankans or Srilankan refugees who were smuggled to UK or those having sympathy on LTTE with a bit of LTTE training??????
I bet these are the LTTE members the British who very generously granted refugee staus and those paid by LTTE to attack other Tamils those not support and funds financially to LTTE.
Srilankan Tamils migrated all over the world prior to introduction of LTTE struggle were never faugt each other for sure. They never spoilt the name of their birth country nor their nationality untill birth of LTTE. These are the growing terrorists of the world.
Very soon they will attack British police too. British police must better wait and watch to see who will left behind after this type of attacks. Let them kill each other. Let them learn lessions. Let them suffer the pain. Let them taste the blood.

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Punishment must be deporting back to Tamilnadu. Don't send them back to Srilanka.

Thattaya wrote:

Vellupillai wrote:
http://www.asiantrib une.com/?q=node/1188 8 Another gang attack on a
fellow Tamil Gang.

Well, well, well. Another fantastic story
about Srilankan Tamils. I cannot stop tears on my eyes. Sin, poor
innocent, enducated Tamil boys.....ha...ha...h
aa
Are they educated parent's uneducated innocent Srilankans or Srilankan
refugees who were smuggled to UK or those having sympathy on LTTE with
a bit of LTTE training?????? I bet these are the LTTE members the
British who very generously granted refugee staus and those paid by
LTTE to attack other Tamils those not support and funds financially to
LTTE. Srilankan Tamils migrated all over the world prior to
introduction of LTTE struggle were never faugt each other for sure.
They never spoilt the name of their birth country nor their nationality
untill birth of LTTE. These are the growing terrorists of the world.
Very soon they will attack British police too. British police must
better wait and watch to see who will left behind after this type of
attacks. Let them kill each other. Let them learn lessions. Let them
suffer the pain. Let them taste the blood.

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Punishment must be deporting back to Tamilnadu.
Don't send them back to Srilanka.

Let's put it like this as Sri Lankans, good riddance of bad rubbish. Thank god this community is some other nation's problem now. Europe should encourage more Tamil to come and settle down in their shores. And in about 300 years time, when things go wrong for them, they'll demand a separate state because they are the "minority".

Vellupillai wrote:

Thattaya wrote:

Vellupillai wrote: http://www.asiantrib une.com/?q=node/1188 8 Another gang attack on a fellow Tamil Gang.

Well, well, well. Another fantastic story about Srilankan Tamils. I cannot stop tears on my eyes. Sin, poor innocent, enducated Tamil boys.....ha...ha...h aa Are they educated parent's uneducated innocent Srilankans or Srilankan refugees who were smuggled to UK or those having sympathy on LTTE with a bit of LTTE training?????? I bet these are the LTTE members the British who very generously granted refugee staus and those paid by LTTE to attack other Tamils those not support and funds financially to LTTE. Srilankan Tamils migrated all over the world prior to introduction of LTTE struggle were never faugt each other for sure. They never spoilt the name of their birth country nor their nationality untill birth of LTTE. These are the growing terrorists of the world. Very soon they will attack British police too. British police must better wait and watch to see who will left behind after this type of attacks. Let them kill each other. Let them learn lessions. Let them suffer the pain. Let them taste the blood.

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Punishment must be deporting back to Tamilnadu. Don't send them back to Srilanka.

Let's put it like this as Sri Lankans, good riddance of bad rubbish. Thank god this community is some other nation's problem now. Europe should encourage more Tamil to come and settle down in their shores. And in about 300 years time, when things go wrong for them, they'll demand a separate state because they are the "minority".

There are 100s of minority nations settled in different countries buy not seeking any seperate states nor the countries will allow. Those who have sorted refugee status are seeking for genuine reasons. But only those Tamils either Srilankan, Indian or Malaysian, Sigaporean are all from South Indian origin who sypathise LTTE terrorists and living under LTTE umbrella nothing for but their own benifits. That's the reason they kill their own race if not support LTTE.
There are African, Bosnians, Iraqis, North Koreans, North Isladers all over the world who have received refugee status but don't ask for a sepertae state not kill each other while settled in another country. Don't ask a Srilankan or any other nationality to get a feedback on Tamilians. JUST TALK TO A INDIAN from CENTRAL,

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NORTH, EAST or WEST INDIA and see how they feel about SOUTH INDIAN TAMILS.

I just need an answer to a question that has been bothering me for some time. How is it that Sinhalese, Budhist Sri lankans with no European connection have European names?

tammyo wrote:
I just need an answer to a question that has been bothering me for some time. How is it that Sinhalese, Budhist Sri lankans with no European connection have European names?

Let me have some names you know and I will explain how they got their European names.

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I knew one of the members convicted in this incident. There was a time when we were young and i considered him my best friend, and role model. Asif was a kind and innocent child back then who believe it or not was very intelligent and aspired to become a dentist, he was artistic and had great talent. He changed as he entered college and was from then on surrounded by idiots. Over the course of 3-4 years he changed into what is above. It just shows how friends and the people you choose to surround yourself with;have a massive impact on your life. He wasnt even tamil. I am saddened to see my friend like this. Bdw this newpaper article is greatly exaggerated and the victims were also part of a gang who were the ones that produced a knife in a fight, which got turned back on them. These incidents are described as "Gangs" and "men" yet they had immature kid like mentalities. None of them can be described as "men". they are dysfunctional and disorganized kids with nothing better to do with their time.

Why do they have to be terrorists because they are Sri Lankan Tamils? They're just evil people, all cultures have them. Tamils are a minority that are easy to pick on. How many people would have been as quick to come on and say all muslims are evil because of Al Qaeda? Probably not many because they dont want be seen as racist even though that is how they are being when talking about Tamils. Im certain that most Irish people will have known someone who was affiliated with the IRA, are all the Irish also terrorists? At the end of the day, they were just evil men who should be deported! They abused the system, and british citizens shouldnt have