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Bar workers jailed following brutal assault

7:36pm Friday 18th January 2008

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A Purley man has been jailed for beating a man so hard with a metal pole that it bent.

Ralph Daley of Palamos, Church Road, Purley was sentenced to 18 months for violent disorder at the Inner London Crown Court today.

“All of those convicted worked for the Fridge Bar and were supposed to be responsible for preventing disorder but instead they created it."

Chief Superintendent Sharon Rowe

The 45-year-old will serve half the sentence in custody and the rest on licence.

He was sentenced along with four other men in connection with a brutal assault outside the Fridge Bar, Brixton on November 26 last year.

Frederick Mallefroy, 43, of Kingston Road, Ilford, Essex was convicted in his absence of attempted GBH and sentenced to three-and-a-half years.

Victor Carl Reid, 41, of Eamon Casey House, Mostyn Road, Brixton was convicted of violent disorder and sentence to two-and-a-half years in prison.

Two other men, Gary Kevin Baker, 37, from Harrowby Street, Paddington and James Stephenson, from Streatham, were both convicted of perverting the course of justice.

Baker was sentenced to nine months, and Stephenson received six months.

Repeatedly punched

The court heard how Mallefroy, a bouncer at the Fridge Bar, attacked the victim, a man in his 20s, throwing him to the ground at around 4.30am.

Mallefroy then turned the victim on his back and sat astride him repeatedly punching him in the head.

The victim was punched with such force he was knocked unconscious.

At the same time Daley, the co-owner of the Fridge Bar, struck him with a heavy metal pole on the legs four times - hitting the victim so hard the pole bent and disfigured.

Daley even continued to hit the victim after he had been knocked unconscious.

Reid, a cashier on the door, joined in stamping and kicking the victim in the head - and then attacked him with a metal bar.

The victim was taken to a south London hospital where he was treated for cuts, multiple bruising and a leg injury.

He did not want to help police with their enquiries, but enough evidence was gathered from CCTV to press charges.

Search warrant

The day after the attack officers searched the Fridge Bar when a plain clothes policeman noticed Baker and Stephenson trying to dispose of the metal bar used in the attack.

Both were arrested and charged with perverting the course of justice.

Police are still searching for another man who took part in the attack but has not been traced.

He is seen in CCTV footage wearing an overcoat and a baseball hat.

Mallefroy failed to attend his trial and it is believed he has fled abroad.

Lambeth borough commander Chief Superintendent Sharon Rowe said: "I am pleased at the sentences given today which reflect the seriousness of the crimes committed by these violent men. It's important to highlight that this was a victimless conviction.

"All of those convicted worked for the Fridge Bar and were supposed to be responsible for preventing disorder but instead they created it.

"The level of violence used was totally unacceptable and I hope that today's sentence will send out a very clear message that those engaging in such violence in Lambeth will be prosecuted with or without the help of a victim."

Anyone with information about Mallefroy's whereabouts or the outstanding attacker should call Lambeth CID on 020 8649 2119 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.


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Disgusted, Wild west Britain. says...
8:37pm Fri 18 Jan 08

Lambeth borough commander Chief Superintendent Sharon Rowe said: "I am pleased at the sentences given today which reflect the seriousness of the crimes committed by these violent men.

You maybe but im not , 20 years each minimum and the sale of the club with the money going to the victim would have been better.
Mallefroy failed to attend his trial and it is believed he has fled abroad.

Don't customs have records of who leaves and enters the country or can't you be bothered to check.?

Bar Manager, London says...
11:18pm Fri 18 Jan 08

I am 38 have been working and managing bars/nightclubs since I started in bars in 1996 and I have seen it all and am in disbelief that this kind of behavior still exists. I don't really now care about the behavior of the costumer or what he may of did or said now that he was subjected to the alleged assault on him. All the individuals involved should spend time in prison and all licenses that gained either work for or in bars should be taken and they should be banned and must not be able to work in any job where there it involve general public interaction. I can go on. If the editor would like to meet with me to talk about the state of bars etc, i am available.

Clubber, London, South says...
10:22am Sat 19 Jan 08

I have been frequenting this night-club for some years and have noticed how this footage only shows the attack. How and why was this apparent victim there?
Who was he there with? And why does this not show the whole series of events leading up to the attack. In my experience of being out and about, there's usually a reason. I've seen these same security men confront gun men trying to attempt entry and hold there ground. I find it hard to believe that the same men would instigate an unprovoked attack. This story seems very one sided. I have also worked in clubs and been subjected to the most unbelievable things. I have experienced racism, sexual abuse, physical and mental threats and more. These guys put there lives at risk for the sake of our enjoyment. Not everyone has good intentions on a night out as the we all know. The press is full of horror stories of knife and gun attacks. Who's gonna stop them getting to your sons and daughters when they go out at the weekend?

Rob, London says...
11:40am Sat 19 Jan 08

Disgusted wrote:
Lambeth borough commander Chief Superintendent Sharon Rowe said: \"I am pleased at the sentences given today which reflect the seriousness of the crimes committed by these violent men.
You maybe but im not , 20 years each minimum and the sale of the club with the money going to the victim would have been better.
Mallefroy failed to attend his trial and it is believed he has fled abroad.
Don\'t customs have records of who leaves and enters the country or can\'t you be bothered to check.?
errr yeah that's right give them a much longer sentence than most murderers get and then sell the club and give the millions made to some drunken scrote who almost certainly provoked them and then couldn't be bothered to help the police.

Gladston, London says...
11:44am Sat 19 Jan 08

These guys put there lives at risk for the sake of our enjoyment. Not everyone has good intentions on a night out as the we all know... Who's gonna stop them getting to your sons and daughters when they go out at the weekend?

My son and daughter are safer now that 4 of the Fridge Staff are behind bars. Daleys 18 months is a joke, i think for his actions he should have got at least 10 years. Let's hope they find the fourth thug as well as the bouncer on the run.

The CCTV footage in full can be seen on the Sun website.

Lisa, Croydon says...
12:14pm Sat 19 Jan 08

The full story is in the papers. The victim had been racially abusing staff so if you ask me, he got what he deserved, a good lashing! I dont beleive in racial abuse because no race is superior than the other so if you chuck it, you will get what you deserve! I dont normally condone violence but these bouncers put up with all sorts, but for some drunk fool to use racial slurs and monkey chants at people is another thing.
Im sure the co-owner doesnt mind. He will still earn money whilst he is inside and continue when he comes out!

boring lisa, zzzzzzzzzzzz says...
1:06pm Sat 19 Jan 08

Didnt take you long did it Lisa? boring

Alison, Croydon says...
5:40pm Sat 19 Jan 08

Lisa, you are right racial abuse is not right in anyway, but how you can agree with the actions that were carried out is disgraceful, nice world we would live in if you had any say

letting you know what really happened, london says...
12:35am Sun 20 Jan 08

You see what you people have not been told is there was 12 white men in the
Mass night club opposite to the fridge where they beat a man unconscious
The staff from the fridge was asked to help the mass club because the 12 white
Men where smashing things up outside and there was no sign of the police. The staff went over but just watched them
And then the white men left but only to go to an off-licence where they where racise to the shop owner
And started to nick bottles of drink. It was about 11/2 hours now since they
Walked away from the mass club to when they decided to return and started
Throwing bottles and shutting racism at the fridge staff, but did you know
That the police did not turn up once to investigate about the man that the white men
Beat and did you know that most if not all the white man had been arrested
Before for fighting with bouncer, also did you know that the man on the floor
Pulled out a weapon on them and last of all did you know the fridge staff
Chased the 12 men up the hill 3 times to try and get read of them but they
Kept on coming back. There is CCTV from the shop they stole from, there was CCTV
Of them smashing up the mass club there was even CCTV of them being chased up the road, but
You are not shown or told any of that. Do you think the staff at the fridge went to work that day
Wanting to go though that ****. Just to let you know im not a bouncer and im white. And no one
Was arrested for the assort on the man in the mass club

DC, London says...
11:10am Sun 20 Jan 08

I have been to the fridge many times and met most of the security staff, including Malloy, and I must say malloy is a really, really nice guy, when you are in the frige, if you can see him, he makes you feel really safe, as you know he is the kind of person you can go upto and talk to about anything and he will not let you or anybody start trouble, sell drugs or do anything wrong, In my eyes mallfoy done wrong but he done wrong to protect me, and our sons and daughters inside and outside of the club, he should go to prison but he should go to prison as a hero, that may of saved your sons or daughters on that night. disagree watch the video and listen to the guy gearing mallfoy on into a fight before it actually started and that was just the end of the torent of abuse the security gus took. Perhaps if security staff were allowed to detain people in a safe and secure manner or if the police had turned up sooner this would of been dealt with differantly. Ps. Sorry for any typo errors

DC, London says...
11:45am Sun 20 Jan 08

Inregard to my last statement above where I said "perhaps the if secuity gaurds were allowed to detain people in a safe and secure manner that may of dealt with the situation" the reason that small point may be so significant is, its violent out there security gaurds are being shot dead on a regular basis, the Rex-stratford, the security gaurd shot dead for stopping some one from smoking mid 2007 and theres much much more. Any night club security gaurd knows that because you are not allowed to detain people until the police come, if you do get into a fight 2 rules apply 1. You must win or chaos will follow in may forms if you lose, and 2. When you win, you must win good in otherwords a "good beatin", or the person you are fighting must be affraid to come back, Why? because when you are on the door if you get into a fight, when the person you are fighting gets up and walks away, you the security gaurd are now what is known as "BAIT" Ie. if you can,t detaian them and that person you had a fight with is not scared of you or incapasitated there is a very good chance that they will come back with friends or a gun to get the "BAIT" so for this reason severe behavior is often needed. The choice for security staff as the law stands is often face prison or face the grave, and most security staff choose prison but many others become "BAIT and face there grave protecting us, as I said simple solution in some cases would be to allow security staff to detain people in a safe and secure manner

Mark, Shirley says...
1:01pm Sun 20 Jan 08

I used to think films like Mad Max were stupid but it seems like the people frequenting "The Fridge" and similar venues are from some sub-human culture.
Why can't people go out for an evening without worrying about "bait", beatings and security.
If these places attract scum, the sooner they are all closed the better!

DC, London says...
1:58pm Sun 20 Jan 08

Ho Mark Thats so simplistic, why not just ban alchaol, these things happen all over the country and in most countrys it just happens to be the fridge today, and by the way the fridge is a gay club most nights, are you saying "the gay clubs attract some kind of sub culture", I do not think so, you mite not like it, but life is what it is, and its not always pritty or what we would like it to be

Jeremy Pender, York says...
4:05pm Sun 20 Jan 08

Fascinated as I am by how you Londoners spend your time, I've just asked Dan Menhinnitt, your reporter here, to say whether newsquest.co.uk now proposes any kind of follow-up investigation into what led up to the assault. I've also copied in Andrew Parkes, the publishers' Group Editor.

Jeremy Pender
York
http://groups.yahoo.
com/group/east_schum
acheria

Jeremy Pender, York says...
4:34pm Sun 20 Jan 08

My colleague Lou Scannon has now written to Mick Kellas and Zaid Joseph at Mass to ask whether their own club's view of the events has been reported on anywhere so far.
http://groups.yahoo.
com/group/east_schum
acheria/message/251

Alison, Croydon says...
4:52pm Sun 20 Jan 08

Regardless of whether people think this was deserved or not, the actions of the men afterwards speaks volumes, put down your weapons, get back to the door and carry on as normal.

Derrick, Nearby says...
5:58pm Sun 20 Jan 08

Alison with the information that has come to light why do you not condemn the actions of the victim? Or is racial abuse, thuggery and assault ok? Gross hypocrisy IMHO.

The staff were excessive, especially the bouncers, as they are trained to have more restraint. maybe the reason they went back to work as normal was because they gave this little scrot the lesson they thought he deserved.

DC, London says...
6:05pm Sun 20 Jan 08

I think everybody agrees the security staffs behavior was disgusting to say the least, just imagine if it was you, or a member of your family on the floor taking that beating, nobody deserves that and the police would not be doing their job if they did not prosicute. As I said earlier life is what it is, I think if you asked the security guys did they regret it, they would probably say "yes of course we went to work like normal people hoping nothing would kick of", and the victim would probably say "I can't remember much about the night but I don't get drunk any more", I undertstand why the security done what they done but it is still not acceptable behavior, if they done that to me or mine I would be disgusted at the short prison sentances, Lisa what exactly would you of expected them to do, their first priority should be to get back to the door and secure the building, thats what they done, and the police allowed them to carry on doing that as their would of been hundreds of people in the club, the police would of dealt with it by using CCTV to keep a eye on the club, probably flooding the area with plained clothes police and then once the security staff finished doing there job (looking after the safety of the clubbers) the police raided the following day, there was no need for the security staff to call police or ambulance as if you watch the CCTV Video and listen you can hear that police or ambulance were on the scene before security were able to take up their positions
PS. for anybody wondering why I maybe so intrested? The answer is I am not, I am spending the intire weekend at my PC building a website for my company, and whenever I need a break I come hear and read or make a comment, and the site is now finished so good bye to everyone. Sorry once again for all the typo errors

pub landlord, says...
6:37pm Sun 20 Jan 08

If these places attract scum, the sooner they are all closed the better!
Leaving them open has two main benefits.
One ,the scum have somwhere to go and it keeps them in the same places.
Two ,normal people can go elsewhere and enjoy themselves knowing the scum won't be there.
are you saying "the gay clubs attract some kind of sub culture",
Depends on how they perceive homosexual behaviour i suppose.

Me, says...
8:58pm Sun 20 Jan 08

To the Pub Landlord, The guy above said the fridge was gay most nights, he did not say this particular night was a gay night and considering the fridge bar as been open with very few incident for at a guess about twenty years, would you also say if a fight broke out in your pub with some drunken people, that were not your regulars that would mean the scum as you call them, all have somewhere else to go, your pub. Think about it? keep thinking? keep thinking!! got you. gave you a headache did'nt I.

Me Again, London says...
10:25pm Sun 20 Jan 08

I am so angry, when I read stupidity like what the pub landlord had to say, I just had to come back one last time. Just to let you know as your comments make it seem like you do not realise. The club was full with "NORMAL PEOPLE", just like the people that go to your pub, it was just a few members of staff, remember most of the security staff would of been inside the main hall and known nothing about what was going on at the door, and some (probably) drunk people coming from the mass club opposite. Would it not be better to control the sale of strong drinks, I see on the news where they talk about the booze culture in this country, was this not just another simptom of what people like you cause by selling booze, yes, you must take your share of the responsibility, but I know you won,t you will find a reason to put blame somewhere else, but consider this, if there was more controls on booze do you think that the incident would of happened. Normal people have been goig to the fridge for about 20 years much longer than the average life span of a night club of just 10 years and probably longer than you have been a pub landlord, but maybe not

Clarence, Peckham says...
2:20am Mon 21 Jan 08

DC wrote:
Inregard to my last statement above where I said \"perhaps the if secuity gaurds were allowed to detain people in a safe and secure manner that may of dealt with the situation\" the reason that small point may be so significant is, its violent out there security gaurds are being shot dead on a regular basis, the Rex-stratford, the security gaurd shot dead for stopping some one from smoking mid 2007 and theres much much more. Any night club security gaurd knows that because you are not allowed to detain people until the police come, if you do get into a fight 2 rules apply 1. You must win or chaos will follow in may forms if you lose, and 2. When you win, you must win good in otherwords a \"good beatin\", or the person you are fighting must be affraid to come back, Why? because when you are on the door if you get into a fight, when the person you are fighting gets up and walks away, you the security gaurd are now what is known as \"BAIT\" Ie. if you can,t detaian them and that person you had a fight with is not scared of you or incapasitated there is a very good chance that they will come back with friends or a gun to get the \"BAIT\" so for this reason severe behavior is often needed. The choice for security staff as the law stands is often face prison or face the grave, and most security staff choose prison but many others become \"BAIT and face there grave protecting us, as I said simple solution in some cases would be to allow security staff to detain people in a safe and secure manner
DC

Sorry I dont go along with what you said that a severe beating is needed to prevent the bouncer becoming 'bait' and subject to revenge attacks. severe beatings wont deter revenge attacks and probably cause them. The guy's mates will come back looking to make amends. That is why we hear of bouncers being shot and other violence to doormen. There is no evidence to believe severe beatings leads to less violence in return. The reverse if the case, if you fight fire with fire

Bob Peel, Croydon says...
8:19am Mon 21 Jan 08

Come on 'Jeremy Pender of York' get real.

How do you think the ordinary Londoner spends hius time - giving out spankings and beatings?

Get real, go and tuck into some tripe and onions whilst all of London heave their way into a Pie & Mash shop.

Alison, Croydon says...
1:17pm Mon 21 Jan 08

Derrick - if you read my thread earlier on you will see my views

P, says...
2:16pm Mon 21 Jan 08

If the victim was apparently being racist then why is a white guy (Mallefroy) the one beating him up?! No matter if someone is racist or not, they are words and although yes words can hurt there is no need for violence. And especially 4 or 5 people beating ONE person who is already on the ground. No one deserves a beating that severe from grown men who should know better!!

marie, croydon says...
2:34pm Mon 21 Jan 08

the fridge is a gay club the fridge bar is next door two separate venues!

marie, croydon says...
2:37pm Mon 21 Jan 08

this incident was at the FRIDGE BAR!!!

DC, London says...
2:41pm Mon 21 Jan 08

Dear Clarence, Of course you are totally correct with no exceptions I think you simply read and misundersood what I was trying to say, If bouncers went around giving out beatings I for one would never go to a club, would you.

For a bouncer to give out a beating is elegal for good reasons, That rule applies to every one, even the police are not allowed to give out beatinggs.

There are people out there that can turn up at any pub, club they live anywhere and come from all sectors of society, who even when the police go looking for them, they bring the armed response unit, the kenneth noye's (was that his name)of this world can turn up anywhere at any time.

The sub cultures as some one here called them live in your flats Town or village and look like ordinary people, when they turn up at (any) club with friends, drunk, no money for entry and determined to get in, or start fighting ordinary clubbers inside the club, its the bouncers who have to take care of it.

Some times the bouncers will be out numbered by drunken thugs coming from another pub, as was the likely case with Malleffoy.

The security can,t run away and leave the premises ungaurded, They must stand and hold their ground.

I know of a club in ashford kent where the bouncers used to get racially abused and attacked by drunken thugs coming from the nearby pub at pub closing time every week until they had to close the club.

"Call the police" I hear you say, have you tried calling the police on a satuday night, last time I tried, My wife told the police the threads I was getting "We are going to kill you (me) and leave you on the floor dead for your family to cry over your dead body".

The police called back 3 hours later asking did we still need police assistance.

(The police do a great job, "the best in the world" I believe, but their is to much crime and not enough police)

That subculture travel all over going to any club at any time and some times a fight will break out.

When I was younger I got into a fight, I got the guy to the ground, and said to him "I am stronger than you I do not wan't to hurt you, so stop" I got off him without punching him even once and walked away, I woke up in hospital with a bust head, he came from behind and smacked me from the back in the head with a piece of wood.

I personally wood never allow that to happen again, there are lots of people out there that go to pubs and clubs with tools and if it starts, the only help the clubbers have is security staff who often end up fighting some one elses fight for their own lifes.

No bouncer wants a fight with that person or that person in their club or pub and the police generally know who they are and want them in prison.

But the law does not allow for them to stay in prison, if they were in america they might already have their 3 stikes, they may even have mental health problems, One thing is for sure, their personnality attracts trouble and its the bouncers who must keep them out or get them out of the club/pub at all cost.

Some people go out and it's in their nature to start trouble, and its often the bouncers job to spot that person and protect every body else and some times that even means the bouncer giving up his own life.

Do not get me wrong I still agree with you, and I know there are a lot of bad people out there, and that includes security staff who should never of got the job,

If I were in a night club and some one started on me and the security came to help and got beat up I would be less than impressed - I would of expected them to win and protect me at all cost wouldn,t you.

But that does not mean they can beat anybody up, but we live in a real world, and I would expect the bouncer to meet force with force, and that may well mean the other person getting what he intended to give to me or the security staff

And to the poster of this comment (Leaving them open has two main benefits.
One ,the scum have somwhere to go and it keeps them in the same places.
Two ,normal people can go elsewhere and enjoy themselves knowing the scum won't be there.)

How silly is that? How can you know where they will be, thats the hole point of having security, so that if scum turn up secuity can turf them out

This is not a new problem Its a problem thats been around from before security staff as a job was invented


Mass Club, Mass Club says...
4:58pm Mon 21 Jan 08

This statement is from the Mass club in Brixton opposite the Fridge Bar and is posted in an attempt to clarify what happened on Nov 26th 2006
At 3am a group of 10 males beat up another male clubber inside the club, security intervened and escorted the group out of the fire exit which faces the Fridge Bar. Our security had to use force and push them out as they were not willing to leave peacefully. Once outside they hurled bottles at our doormen, hitting one of them on the head causing a cut and bleeding. The fire exit was then closed. The group then made their way to the main entrance of Mass, on the way they passed the Babalou Club entrance and picked up the barriers and threw them down the steps, they then threatened the mass doorstaff and started throwing bottles and rocks at them. Whilst this was happening Ralph Daley and three members of his security team voluntarily came over to help and stood outside the Babalou Club in support but did not get involved or provoke the troublemakers. Seeing that we now had 15 doormen securing our club the group eventually gave up and walked towards coldharbour lane. This whole incident lasted about 20 minutes. Police were called but did not arrive until the group had left. An ambulance was also called to give medical aid to the man who had been beaten up in Mass. Sadly he was not willing help the police in identifying the attackers and so the police did not take matters further. He was then taken to hospital. I then thanked Ralph Daley and his security team for their support which i was extremly grateful for and it showed their willingness to help people in difficulty in a very positive and professional manner. Sadly nowadays people turn a blind eye and steer clear of any violence in case they also get turned on. In this instance the Fridge doormen forsaked their own safety to help maintain order.
Just after an hour later, to our surprise, the group returned and started shouting abuse and throwing more bottles at our doormen. To keep everyone safe we closed the doors at Mass and Babalou. It is very seldom groups like this come back after causeing the initial incident. Knowing this, our door team close the club doors just in case any other types of weapons have been sought.
The police were called again and all we could do was sit it out.
Whilst in the safety of our club, unknown to us the group must have spotted the doormen at the Fridge Bar who helped us earlier. This then resulted in the group attacking the Fridge Bar and their doormen and to add fuel to the fire started shouting racist comments.
It amazes me how the media have only shown one side of this story considering an hour earlier this man had been part of a group of ten white men beating up a single black person.
I do not condone violence but if this group had not done what they did then their own friend would not have been in a position to get hurt plus seeing that they got away with the initial incident why did they not just go away ?
What can be learnt from this ?
Maybe the police should monitor bars or clubs after an incident in case any troublemakers do return, this in itself would have stopped this happening.
As i have said on many occasions to the local police, local council and the MP, Brixton do not have enough police to safeguard the town centre, in fact their are no police on foot patrol in Brixton after 10pm but if you go to Clapham or central london they are always visible. With Brixtons history and even nowadays being known as a place to get your fix or get mugged it should have and deserves a night time police presence especally with clubs being open till 6am.
I feel very sad for Ralph Daley and his security staff because i doubt this would have happened if they did not volunteer to help us at Mass.
Maybe the moral of this incident is, Walk Away and Dont Get Involved, sad but more than often true.
I welcome any questions or comments.

dwaine, says...
6:47pm Mon 21 Jan 08

It about time that the truth was told,thankyou for the staff at Mass for releasing this stament. if think that this false then go to youtube.com and enter FRIDGE BAR BRIXTON THE REAL TRUTH. then that will excessive force that was used. i fully support the staff at fridge bar, who came to the aid to help the staff across the road at Mass. IT IS ALWAYS BEST TO REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO THE STORY.

Marie, croydon says...
7:25pm Mon 21 Jan 08

i have seen these two guys out on the doors in and around south london and they have always been polite and well mannered. they only have to grip up the odd mouthy drunk once in a while! and that is there job after all?! what ever the guy said or done must of been bad for all of them to batter him like that!no smoke with out fire

letting you know what really happened, london says...
8:03pm Mon 21 Jan 08

To the mass club, I thank you for your reply. My concern is I donÂ’t see your statement in any of the
National papers because all the people are seeing is what the police and papers want them to see and
That makes out that the boys are animals, when you and I know different. Yes I do know the boys
Because I grow up with some of them and if you look back over the 25 years they have been controlling
The doors at the fridge bar and the club, you will see there has been very little trouble. The Fridge club
Has been run now for the last 2 years by different door staff and if anyone remembers only last year there
Was I think 2 or 3 shootings on the same night at the club something that never happened in all the time the
Boys run the door there. I do know you where in court as one of there witnesses and IÂ’m shore they
Appreciate that, but I fill you need to let people know what really happened that night and what king of
People the white men really are. As you said 10 of them attack 1 man but there was nothing in the papers
About that and im shore the man they beat was not throwing thing at them and calling them raciest names.
What you got to remember the door staff know the cameras are there so when someone pulls a weapon
On you, you have a right to take them down any way you have too, if that was the police he would have been
Dead before he hit the floor. I believe you need to inform people on what really happened that night and stand
Up for the boys the way they stood up for you and your club that night because you donÂ’t realise how much
Helping you out has **** there lifeÂ’s. can you not show the CCTV you have of them smashing up the stuff
Out side your place

Mass Club, Brixton says...
9:18pm Mon 21 Jan 08

letting you know what really happened wrote:
To the mass club, I thank you for your reply. My concern is I donÂ’t see your statement in any of the
National papers because all the people are seeing is what the police and papers want them to see and
That makes out that the boys are animals, when you and I know different. Yes I do know the boys
Because I grow up with some of them and if you look back over the 25 years they have been controlling
The doors at the fridge bar and the club, you will see there has been very little trouble. The Fridge club
Has been run now for the last 2 years by different door staff and if anyone remembers only last year there
Was I think 2 or 3 shootings on the same night at the club something that never happened in all the time the
Boys run the door there. I do know you where in court as one of there witnesses and IÂ’m shore they
Appreciate that, but I fill you need to let people know what really happened that night and what king of
People the white men really are. As you said 10 of them attack 1 man but there was nothing in the papers
About that and im shore the man they beat was not throwing thing at them and calling them raciest names.
What you got to remember the door staff know the cameras are there so when someone pulls a weapon
On you, you have a right to take them down any way you have too, if that was the police he would have been
Dead before he hit the floor. I believe you need to inform people on what really happened that night and stand
Up for the boys the way they stood up for you and your club that night because you donÂ’t realise how much
Helping you out has **** there lifeÂ’s. can you not show the CCTV you have of them smashing up the stuff
Out side your place
In answer to your questions and comments :

I was not contacted or asked to give my side of what happened by any newspaper.

Mass cctv did not cover the majority of what happened outside or inside the club. What is covered is of no use but statements were given and supported in court. What happened inside and outside of Mass was not disputed either by the police or the court. It has also been recognised that our support in this did help the case for the Fridge Bar.

I think a lot of people are mixing up the Fridge Bar with the Fridge Club. As far as i am aware the shootings were at the Fridge Club which at the time was not run by Ralph Daley.

I beleive my statement and my court appearance shows without any doubt that i fully appreciated what the Fridge Bar security staff done for us and i fully know what it has cost them.

john, London says...
9:43pm Mon 21 Jan 08

Any idea the name of the 4th guy, i mean thug with the baseball cap??

Clarance, Peckham says...
2:10am Tue 22 Jan 08

DC, I dont know if you are a bouncer, but bouncers, or should I say 'Door Supervisors', have to be licensced and go through proper training. The scenarios you discuss they are are prepared for and should know how to deal with it professionally.

Yes there are troublemakers outthere most weekends but if the staff are trained properly the scenarios you discussed shouldnt happen. As other writers to this thread have pointed out, there was no serious trouble such as shootings or stabbings when Ralph ran the door at the club. The same could be said of most properly run door staff.

Also some door men carry licensed firearms and wear the bullet proof vets. So its not a good idea for a thug to boast he's coming back to spray them.

It would appear things got out of hand that night. There were better ways of handling it. There has been case were guns were fired and the incident we are discussing did not occur. Or was it because of the CCTV? If those guys were well connected gangstas and not drunken thugs who knows what else would have happened?

We only saw one side as reported in the press.

RealJustice, London says...
2:11am Tue 22 Jan 08

john wrote:
Any idea the name of the 4th guy, i mean thug with the baseball cap??
John you are a snitch asking for the mans name.
You deserve a slap as well you c..t

This little idiot got what he deserved. It is a shame not the whole gang got beaten up.
I hope the fourth person and the doorman who left the UK will never get caught.


Clarence, Peckham says...
2:24am Tue 22 Jan 08


On the yutube video it shows one of the thugs apparently with a gun? As well as the aggro they were causing? Didnt the police see this? Why didnt they bring charges against any of them? Didnt they hear accounts from the staff at both clubs? Those guys could be charged with affray esp if they injured a door man with a bottle.

Or did they just go for the bouncers because, they didnt need consent of 'victims' because of CCTV and theirfore easier?

The police raided at temporarily closed the Fridge A year or two ago, allegedly for drug selling on the premisses under the noses of staff. So they wouldnt have much sympathy for Fridge Bar? Could it also be, that Ralph is known to them, has a 'reputation' so any chance to 'get' him, on a plate like this, thanks to cctv, they wouldnt " look a gift horse in the mouth"

Clarence, Peckham says...
2:57am Tue 22 Jan 08

Dwaine

How come there are no comments on the youtube link giving more info like we have seen on here?

RealJustice, London says...
3:03am Tue 22 Jan 08

P wrote:
If the victim was apparently being racist then why is a white guy (Mallefroy) the one beating him up?! No matter if someone is racist or not, they are words and although yes words can hurt there is no need for violence. And especially 4 or 5 people beating ONE person who is already on the ground. No one deserves a beating that severe from grown men who should know better!!
This guy deserved it. He and his thuggish friends beat a man badly before. Ten against on. It is a shame that not all these thugs got beaten up.
The doormen should not got jailed

RealJustice, London says...
3:10am Tue 22 Jan 08

I agree with Clarence. It was a present for them. I am sure none of these racist boys got arrested.

RealJustice, London says...
3:15am Tue 22 Jan 08

Disgusted wrote:
Lambeth borough commander Chief Superintendent Sharon Rowe said: "I am pleased at the sentences given today which reflect the seriousness of the crimes committed by these violent men.
You maybe but im not , 20 years each minimum and the sale of the club with the money going to the victim would have been better.
Mallefroy failed to attend his trial and it is believed he has fled abroad.
Don't customs have records of who leaves and enters the country or can't you be bothered to check.?
You are just a dumm idiot talking a lot of s..t.
The "victim" and his thuggish friends beat a man badly inside the mass. Ten against one and got away with it.
Hopefully it will happen to you one day what happened to the guy inside the mass. That would stop you talking bull...t.

therealtruth, TRUTH says...
9:17am Tue 22 Jan 08

PRESS RELEASE

FRIDGE BAR-BRIXTON

THE LINK TO THE YOUTUBE VIDEO: http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=-QJph-xQ-

RQ


Mr Ralph Daley is the former co-owner of the Fridge Bar in Brixton. Mr Daley is not a bouncer as reported in media reports. Mr Daley is a businessman. Mr Daley has been in business for over twenty years. Mr Daley is a prolific letter writer and hereby instructs me to furnish you with the facts of the incident to which he was convicted for Violent Disorder on Friday 18 January 2008 . Mr Daley was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment.



BACKGROUND



Mr Daley wrote to the South London Press on 14th November 2006 in response to an article published a week prior. Mr Daley wrote using the pseudonym Rodney Ramdeo . Mr Daley deemed it necessary to use a pseudonym for the following reasons. Firstly, as one of the few black club owners in Brixton and the most outspoken in his criticism of some elements within Lambeth police. Mr Daley is a prolific letter and understood that writing in his name would bring unnecessary attention to himself and his business. Secondly since the pernicious new Licensing Legislation came into force the onus of the prevention of crime was shifted from the police to venue owners. In simple terms it means that should an incident happen, not only inside your venue but within the vicinity, as a business owner you are left with the threat of closure. All reports of disorderly behaviour, sometimes life-threatening behaviour are weighed heavily against you.



Notwithstanding, the Fridge Bar, up until the incident on 26 November 2006 had a impeccable safety record, as submitted at a Lambeth licensing review hearing, by the police barrister held on Tuesday 23 October 2007.



The article printed in the SLP to which Mr Daley responded was one where the police said that doormen should ‘do more to tackle gunmen’. This is highly irregular and inconsistent when the police’s own procedures and guidelines state that unarmed police officers cannot and must not engage in firearm situations without the mobilisation of ARV’s (armed response vehicles). So whilst the polices’ own guidelines stipulate this, it is expected that doormen not only do the job of trained firearm officers, but door staff and venue owners should in fact do the job that the police themselves cannot and will not do.



It is against that backdrop that Mr Daley seeks to present the facts of the incident.







FACTS OF THE INCIDENT



On the morning of 27 November 2006 at around 3:15am Mr Daley was on the pavement when he heard a disturbance, shouting and clanging coming from the direction of the Mass Club.



Mr Daley saw a group of white males shouting and aiming missiles toward what looked like Babalou, the club adjacent to the Mass Club. Mr Daley walked over with his staff out of professional courtesy to assist the manager Mick Kellas whom he had known for some 5 years. There was no security outside the Mass Club. The security had decamped.



Mr Daley instructed his marketing manager Phoenix to call the police. Mr Daley and his staff walked over toward Babalou. When Mr Daley and others got to the stairs of the venue he saw security railings at the bottom of the stairwell.



From CCTV footage taken by the Mass Club security system, which, incidentally the police disclosed as unused material, Mr Daley is seen with his hands behind his back in an unthreatening manner. Mr Daley and others did not engage the white males who were chanting very serious racist taunts and threats at Mr Daley and his staff.



Insp. Martell who viewed the CCTV within the Mass club and said it was an attack by 9 men against 1. It is also accepted that a doorman from the Mass club received head injuries as a result of being hit on the head with a bottle. When Mr Daley attended to assist the staff at the Mass & Babalou club he stood still with his hands behind his back almost motionless. Mr Daley did not react to the vile taunts. Mr Daley’s actions were not the actions of someone ‘spoiling’ for a fight!



It was never challenged that these men were indeed racist or indeed that they had savagely attacked a black male within the Mass club causing him injuries that Insp. Martell and the London Ambulance Service agreed needed hospital attention.



Even though the white males said they would return motioning like a gun. Mr Daley believed it to be pure bravado. Infact Mr Daley went as far as saying that one out of every three or four hundred people ever return. Mr Daley returned to the Fridge Bar.



The white males can then be seen moving in a threatening manner toward a black member of public at which point they surround him and threaten him with being shot because he was a ‘****’. That black male sought to take refuge at the Fridge Bar as he deemed there would be safety in numbers.



It is at this time around 4.15 that Mr Daley notices that the same group of men who threatened to come back did indeed come back. Only this time some of them were ‘hooded up’ concealing their identity. They have weapons in their hands. Mr Daley and staff chase them away.



The white males hold, what the Hon. Judge Philpot described as, a ‘war council’ on the corner of Porden Road . Two white males were captured on CCTV one of whom was appearing to conceal a firearm.



Mr Daley instructs the police to be called. Mr Daley returns to the Fridge Bar. Mr Daley saw that the group of males advancing again toward that Fridge Bar and crucially, it is at this point that Mr Daley armed himself with a metal pole taken from the cloakroom.



A second chase ensued and in that chase the white male who saidÂ’ do you wanna get shotÂ’ tripped on the kerb and fell to the floor. This man who fell to the floor was surrounded and quickly patted down and found to have no weapons.



When the prosecution opened the case the court was told that Mr Daley had chased a man thought to be Mr. Koonjean who had fallen to the ground, whilst running away, was set upon and savagely attacked. We know this not to be true as can be seen from CCTV footage. This was the premise of the prosecution case. Mr Daley was confronted with the live and direct threat of being shot and or seriously injured, yet Mr Daley’s behaviour was still restrained. Mr Daley’s actions were not that of someone ‘wanting to teach a lesson, bent on exacting revenge’ as asserted by the prosecution.



Immediately to the left Mr Daley a white male was advancing toward him with his hands concealed. At this point Mr Mallefroy approached the man we now know to be Mr Koonjean, from his blind side right. Mr Daley heard the shout ‘gun gun’ and Mr Mallefroy tackled Mr Koonjean to the floor.



Mr Daley could not see what was in Mr Koonjean Â’s hand and he struck him 4 times on his legs for him to release what he had in his hands.



Mr Koonjean was rendered unconscious by the blows reigned on him by Mr Mallefroy . On closer examination of the CCTV it can be seen that Mr Reid was stamping on Mr Koonjean's forearms for him to release what he had in his hands. Mr Reid retrieved a long chain with a knife on the end of it.



Mr Daley and others believed that Mr Koonjean had a firearm and defended themselves accordingly. One cannot weigh to the nicety of the amount of force used under those fast moving life threatening circumstances.



Despite calling the police regarding the return of the ‘violent racist hooligans’ as described by Hon. Judge Philpot. Mr Daley and his staff were treated as the aggressors.



Armed police arrived first? Why? PC Grey said that when he heard the sound of metal on concrete on the Monday he thought that it was a gun and on that basis he did not want to approach Stephenson & Baker. What was his premise? Was he told that there was the possibility that were used in the incident the day before?



An order was given the order to swab hands of the arrested Fridge Bar staff but that three experienced police officers could not remember who gave them the order to do so? The swabbing of hands is to primarily find gun residue. Why did they do that in this case?





Mr Daley is guilty only of believing Mr Koonjean who proclaimed that he had a gun and gestured as if he had a gun. Images were captured showing at least two of the white males with what appears to be a gun.



Notwithstanding had the police pursued the white males after the incident at the mass club, Mr Daley would not have been put in a position where he had to fight for his life.



Mr DaleyÂ’s business was 10 minutes or so from closing. It does not make sense to suggest that a violent disorder would be initiated so close to the end of the night?



You might, also find it interesting that Mr Daley writes to the local newspaper under a pseudonym lamenting the fact that he and his staff are facing the threat of ‘terrorism’ from gunmen and the apparent inactivity of the police.

Mr Daley sent a letter to the South London Press newspaper on the 7th November 2006 which was published on the 14th November 2006 . This is 12 days before the incident on 26th November 2006 . These are not the actions of a thug but a local businessman who is concerned at the threat to his staff and his business.





CONCLUSION



Mr Daley has furnished you with the facts of the case in order to satisfy your journalistic curiosity.

How is it in the 21stcentury that the police can allow white racist thugs to get way with seriously attacking a black man and nothing comes of it. However, the police at the behest of a senior ranking officer saw fit to pursue Mr Daley for attempted GBH and Violent Disorder despite knowing the facts of the case.



The entire case and media reports have been construed as a racist witch hunt and a gross character assassination of the Highest Order. Institutional racism is RIFE and the events of these past days have highlighted that fact even more.



Should you wish to write the truth and pay homage to your profession Mr Daley will be willing to furnish you with all material.



THE LINK TO THE YOU TUBE VIDEO: http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=-QJph-xQ-

ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
9:19am Tue 22 Jan 08

Someone is suffering from acute writers' diarrhoea!

anon, london says...
12:25pm Tue 22 Jan 08

no anne i think your suffering from acute idiot syndrome!

Lisa, Croydon says...
2:07pm Tue 22 Jan 08

So the truth finally emerges! This bunch of savage racists started it, beat up a man, threatened staff and brandished what they said was a gun and yet the papers release a completely on-sided different story! How typical of the media! And then people wonder why black people are hated so much when they print cr#p like this without even giving true facts of what happened!
Those blokes deserved to get battered end of. They were in fact very brave to do what they did in the middle of Brixton and were very lucky they didnt come across a group of people who would have done alot worse. In fact they would probably be 6 foot under right now which is where they deserve to be!
Good on the security, I rate them. I am just disappointed that these thugs werent left brain damaged!!

Clarence, Peckham says...
2:32pm Tue 22 Jan 08

Why should anyone come to the aid of someone abused by thugs or hoodies, or trust the police after reading this story?

Once again if you stand up for yourself, you, the victim go to jail and not the trouble makers? IT just gives them a green light to carry on with impunity. Whose side are the police on? Why didnt they charge or arrest any of the thugs? Has the world gone mad? Is there way of a backlash against criticisms and official reports against them? Lke the Mcpherson Report?

The world has gone mad

Marie, croydon says...
2:37pm Tue 22 Jan 08

Lisa wrote:
So the truth finally emerges! This bunch of savage racists started it, beat up a man, threatened staff and brandished what they said was a gun and yet the papers release a completely on-sided different story! How typical of the media! And then people wonder why black people are hated so much when they print cr#p like this without even giving true facts of what happened! Those blokes deserved to get battered end of. They were in fact very brave to do what they did in the middle of Brixton and were very lucky they didnt come across a group of people who would have done alot worse. In fact they would probably be 6 foot under right now which is where they deserve to be! Good on the security, I rate them. I am just disappointed that these thugs werent left brain damaged!!
I agree with what u say lisa but by saying and then wonder why black people are hated so much! that is so not true! and out of order when are people going to get through there thick head its not colour or creed its class thats behind all this madnees in london! 99.9% percent of crime stems from poverty with or without both parents black white chinese whatever!come on open up your tiny minds!

Antony Quinn-Muir, WC2 says...
3:31pm Tue 22 Jan 08

ANNE GILES wrote:
Someone is suffering from acute writers\' diarrhoea!
Agreed ,next we will will have Kray brother supporters telling us how much they loved their mum.
Theres is no volume on the youtube vid and no gun can be seen
or identified as not being something say like a mobile phone and the text added by the author borders on incitement to create racial hatred ,also the threats , language and tone of the posts made by RealJustice and other supporters of this vigilante style street justice are quite distburing to say the least.
The police have done a fine job but the courts have let them and the public down by giving out such meagre sentences.
Any idea the name of the 4th guy, i mean thug with the baseball cap??

Hopefully the polcie will name him soon but if you or anyone sees Frederick Mallefroy call 020 8649 2119.

mike, brixton says...
6:14pm Tue 22 Jan 08

It has been said that the 4th thug involved in the incident is Ralph Daleys brother... looks like this thuggish behavior runs in the family!

lisa, Croydon says...
6:30pm Tue 22 Jan 08

It has been said that the 4th thug involved in the incident is Ralph Daleys brother... looks like this thuggish behavior runs in the family!


And where did you get this information from mike?
I do not believe a name has been released or any information about the 4th person involved in the attack.

Does any one know any information about him?

alan, London says...
7:09pm Tue 22 Jan 08

mike wrote:
It has been said that the 4th thug involved in the incident is Ralph Daleys brother... looks like this thuggish behavior runs in the family!
I wouldnt call them thugs, more like heroes if you ask me! Teaching a bunch of ignorant racist chavs a lesson, good on you!

Evictor, Stockwell says...
2:23am Wed 23 Jan 08

How come no mention of the lout with the baseball bat?? I counted four using excessive violence.

letting you know what really happened, london says...
3:20am Wed 23 Jan 08

Evictor wrote:
How come no mention of the lout with the baseball bat?? I counted four using excessive violence.
just to let all you red neck know the metal pole they said ralph daley was using was a chrome copper pipe they used to hang the coats on and it is hollow you can bend it on your knee without without any effort!Antony and mike when you have one of your friends or family members or even yourself being attact by the racist scum, or the gangs of hoodies your be wishing you had someone like Ralph Daley standing up for you. I am shore all you see is 3 black men beat up a white man and not even give a **** that 9 white men kicked the **** out of a black man only 2 hours before but i dont hear you shouting about locking them up. what you should know the white man walked out of hospital yes walked out 2 days after his deserved beating. so you know im white english.

RealNonsense, WC2 says...
4:44am Wed 23 Jan 08

just to let all you red neck know the metal pole they said ralph daley was using was a chrome copper pipe they used to hang the coats on and it is hollow you can bend it on your knee without without any effort!Antony and mike when you have one of your friends or family members or even yourself being attact by the racist scum, or the gangs of hoodies your be wishing you had someone like Ralph Daley standing up for you. I am shore all you see is 3 black men beat up a white man and not even give a **** that 9 white men kicked the **** out of a black man only 2 hours before but i dont hear you shouting about locking them up. what you should know the white man walked out of hospital yes walked out 2 days after his deserved beating. so you know im white english.


...Really not even worth a reply, only if you knew how pathetic you sound. With the kind of attitude you have it won't be long before you are also in prison with the violent SCUM! ANGER MANAGEMENT!

hate the game not the player, south london says...
9:04am Wed 23 Jan 08

It seem's that this was provoked, I been to the F Bar many times, a regular, people come from all over the country to come there. The owner,well he a nice man in general if you give any problems then you got problems.. they do make sure no idiots get in and they get the idiots out too. when they do that they do it with a lot of force... now that many not be right in moral terms but if you are in brixton that is the response. heavy beating...the reason no one plays up in the club is for that reason. It a very violent area when things kicks off in that town. Kids carry guns is the norm..and they have been shot at too...thats when i stopped going there. but there lives are on the line.Its not a easy job...what do you do when a 20 year old say he is comming back to shoot you in your face and spray the club with bullets and burn down your mums house? this is what said and do your take it serious, will they be back next week and your on the door. I have been there you may have a bigger turn out just too see what happens...times has change..kids get away with murder. people are taking the **** with the law... the law don't protect...it just convicts at a later date ....no one is fears the law, or jail which is a hotel, i say its time to get firm...I don't like violence but meet fire with more fire in this case.

halle, sutton says...
9:11am Wed 23 Jan 08

absolutely disgusing creatures - why do some people feel the need to act like this when they go out? IF YOU CANT HANDLE YOUR DRINK DON'T DO IT! people like this take pleasure in others pain.. animals

Bricky rep, uptown brixton says...
9:33am Wed 23 Jan 08

It seem's that this was provoked, I been to the F Bar many times, a regular, people come from all over the country to come there. The owner,well he a nice man in general if you give any problems then you got problems.. they do make sure no idiots get in and they get the idiots out too. when they do that they do it with a lot of force... now that many not be right in moral terms but if you are in brixton that is the response. heavy beating...the reason no one plays up in the club is for that reason. It a very violent area when things kicks off in that town. Kids carry guns is the norm..and they have been shot at too...thats when i stopped going there. but there lives are on the line.Its not a easy job...what do you do when a 20 year old say he is comming back to shoot you in your face and spray the club with bullets and burn down your mums house? this is what said and do your take it serious, will they be back next week and your on the door. I have been there you may have a bigger turn out just too see what happens...times has change..kids get away with murder. people are taking the **** with the law... the law don't protect...it just convicts at a later date ....no one is fears the law, or jail which is a hotel, i say its time to get firm...I don't like violence but meet fire with more fire in this case. get some sleep...

Its true, if other locals was there including me i would have swung at the racist, in the middle of brixton.. its not on....protect the people not the thugs black or white, i hate
trouble makers...

Ralph is a fair man,they will not start for no reason...
the media has spun this... People stick to the facts or liars and thugs will end up running this country

Lisa, Croydon says...
1:21pm Wed 23 Jan 08

You know what makes me laugh is Ive seen some real racist comments on these websites and these same racist people have encouragedothers to join vigilante groups. But yet, a vigilante incident has occured (I called it vigilante because theytook the law into their own hands against a bunch of racist troublemaking thugs) and people are condemning them! Double bl##dy standards and just because some black men were involved!
This group of white men were troublemakers, they beat up another man and caused trouble outside so they got what they deserved and I along with alot of other people I know are glad! Good luck Ralph for the future!

sarah, London says...
1:28pm Wed 23 Jan 08

It appears to me that some people don't want to hear the truth?
The press release is above - it clearly states that this was provoked and well deserved!

I feel if the press release was shown in place of this story then peoples comments would be very different!

I have been in Brixton and seen terrifying fights such as these!

If the police had done their job and been there when they were called regarding these 9 men beating up 1 man then they would have been arrested and the doormen in question would not have had to go through this!

This man deserved what he got! If the doorman had not defended himself, then he might have been stabbed and killed by this man!

Rambo, says...
1:38pm Wed 23 Jan 08

I am very happy the fridge bar staff are behind bars, i hope each day feels like weeks for them. I have been to the fridge bar before and they walk around like gangsters.

Anyone with information about Mallefroy's whereabouts or the outstanding attacker should call Lambeth CID on 020 8649 2119 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.



Anon, SURREY says...
4:36pm Wed 23 Jan 08

I think with the cctv footage on youtube the white guys should now also be arrested. In an ideal world they would even get to share a cell with Ralph Daley.
The guy deserved the beating that he got and none of the Fridge staff deserve to be in jail. Chavs think they are above the law and you can bet the guy who took the beating will think twice before he ever goes out and causes trouble again.
In fact all trouble makers/gunmen/knifem
en etc. no matter what their colour should be given a beating like that, maybe then there will be less violent crime statistics in this country.
As for Antony Quinn-Muir, WC2 you are just a pompus stuck up pillock.
And as for you Ann Giles you're pathetic, was that statement too long for you to read? Can you only concentrate for short periods? You said in one of your posts that you are a teacher, I hope to God you mean a retired teacher.

Jules, Sutton says...
6:21pm Wed 23 Jan 08

Haha, to the guy above with no name; you are so pathetic!
The youtube video shows absolutly nothing.
Well done to the courts, these stupid low life thugs are off our street in jail where they belong! :D

Lets all help the police find the 4th thug involved in the attack, he is a coward for running away and should get a much longer sentence when the police find him. I'm sure airport records can also be used to find the white bouncer?

DC, London says...
6:40pm Wed 23 Jan 08

Lets cut the Crap, such bullshit on this site. I looked out of my window and saw the police charging into the croweds with about twenty horses at the pole tax riots, yes charging the crowds with hporse, now that is a assault can you imagine a horse being charged into you.there were plenty of film crews and camera men there filming everything

Why did you not see none of that on TV, for the same? because life is Sh..t some times and as security you must do whatever needs to be done, The police done what they done to stop people burning cars smashing shops and "Throwing Missiles" I am a proffesional Thai boxer, and black belt in Jujitsu and Wing Chun, If I was with ralph on that day I would of joined in they got exactly what they deserved, some times a man as to do things and except the punishment, ralph and crew deserve prison but I hope Ralps time goes quickly and they never find malleffoy. and all you do gooderes would you be saying the same if those ten white guys had beaten up your Dad, Brother, Sister or even you

Anon, SURREY says...
9:21pm Wed 23 Jan 08

Jules wrote:
Haha, to the guy above with no name; you are so pathetic! The youtube video shows absolutly nothing. Well done to the courts, these stupid low life thugs are off our street in jail where they belong! :D Lets all help the police find the 4th thug involved in the attack, he is a coward for running away and should get a much longer sentence when the police find him. I\'m sure airport records can also be used to find the white bouncer?
I really hope that the next time these white racist thugs beat some one up it's you or a member of your family Jules. If, as was said before these thugs had been arrested when they was beating up an innocent man & bottling a bouncer then they would be in prison. I agree with DC the wrong ones are in prison and I intend to contact Ralph Daley in prison and offer him my full support. I also hope that Fred Mallefroy never gets caught & that the white thugs get whats due to them. (That is after they have beat your arse Jules). And before you think I am being racist by mentioning the colour of the thugs skin, I am white & I am not a guy I am a woman.

sarah, London says...
10:17pm Wed 23 Jan 08

I am black. This is not a race issue and i am not racist. The fridge bar co-owner and staff done wrong and they deserve to get punish for it.
If there is evidence of the 'white guys' starting trouble, then they should also be dealt with by the police.
No one has the right to take the law into there own hands, Simple as! ... Very light sentences were given out. The fridge staff deserv the electric chair. I have seen 3 of the fridge staff beat up a guy in the bar before, Terrible.

jay, says...
3:26am Thu 24 Jan 08

Anyone with information about Mallefroy's whereabouts or the outstanding attacker should call Lambeth CID on 020 8649 2119 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

He is an ex U.S MarineDO NOTapproach this unstable psychotic lunatic.

Anon, Wallington says...
8:23am Thu 24 Jan 08

jay wrote:
Anyone with information about Mallefroy's whereabouts or the outstanding attacker should call Lambeth CID on 020 8649 2119 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.
He is an ex U.S MarineDO NOTapproach this unstable psychotic lunatic.
I would approach him. I'd walk right up to him and shake his hand.

Lisa, Croydon says...
1:29pm Thu 24 Jan 08

Rambo, you dont sound very macho to me! Sounds like you felt intimidate by a bunch of bouncers doing their job!
Oh and I doubt it will feel like a lifetime in there since prison these days seem to be luxurious and well equipped to entertain them! Im sure they will come out much hencher and stronger than they were already!
And I would shake all of their hands, its about time people like that got a good beating!

ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
10:41pm Sat 26 Jan 08

Well done to the police, they now have forth thug in custody. Let's hope federick mellefroy is soon cought too.

Anon, Wallington says...
11:29pm Sat 26 Jan 08

I will congratulate the police when they arrest & charge the white thugs that started all the trouble in the first place. It's a shame they didn't all get a beating.
I hope they never arrest Frederick Mallefroy.

joan, says...
12:53am Sun 27 Jan 08

Put the phone numbers in your mobiles as every second could be vital if you spot this wanted runaway cowardly violent thug.
Lambeth CID on 020 8649 2119 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.
Keep an eye on things like the locks on your garden shed or your rubbish bins being tampered with.

jade, brixton says...
9:14pm Mon 28 Jan 08

i was there that night, i was thrown out the club along with the rest of the boys there were about 12 of us, this was not a racial attack. one of the boys involved was black himself!!! and one asian boy. the rest were white, and yeh we were all shouting abuse but the bouncers were giving it back, it was drunken talk and the bouncers pride clashing. the bouncers took it 2 far this time. and they will get whats coming to them. now we know there names...

Shaun, says...
11:39am Thu 31 Jan 08

Clarance wrote:
DC, I dont know if you are a bouncer, but bouncers, or should I say \'Door Supervisors\', have to be licensced and go through proper training. The scenarios you discuss they are are prepared for and should know how to deal with it professionally. Yes there are troublemakers outthere most weekends but if the staff are trained properly the scenarios you discussed shouldnt happen. As other writers to this thread have pointed out, there was no serious trouble such as shootings or stabbings when Ralph ran the door at the club. The same could be said of most properly run door staff. Also some door men carry licensed firearms and wear the bullet proof vets. So its not a good idea for a thug to boast he\'s coming back to spray them. It would appear things got out of hand that night. There were better ways of handling it. There has been case were guns were fired and the incident we are discussing did not occur. Or was it because of the CCTV? If those guys were well connected gangstas and not drunken thugs who knows what else would have happened? We only saw one side as reported in the press.
Clarance are you a Doorman? Where have you seen a doorman carrying a firearm? It is illegal, for any private citizen in this country, to carry a firearm! It is not clear from your comments if you support the doormen or not? From the CCTV mentioned earlier it is clear that these racist morons were all armed and came back for one reason alone, they were looking for trouble. Unfortunately they got more than they bargained for. The police, (most already do),and the courts need to start supporting the doormen of this country.

Anon, Anon says...
9:31am Sat 2 Feb 08

ANNE GILES wrote:
Well done to the police, they now have forth thug in custody. Let's hope federick mellefroy is soon cought too.
Where did you hear this?
Can any one else confirm this?

Miller, LDN says...
12:21pm Sun 3 Feb 08

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=9NCBp6VZs
D4

THUGS!


badger, says...
10:37am Wed 6 Feb 08

I've been a bouncer for 18 years in some pretty rough areas and pubs and I have never used excessive force unless there was more of them than us.
The last time was 15 rugby players to 4 of us. Ralph Daley is a coward if he can't do the job properly and needs the back up of other staff with a metal bar for one unruly lad.
These are the guys who are in the job for the wrong reasons.

Aldith Mesquitta, Birmingham says...
11:05pm Wed 6 Feb 08

therealtruth wrote:
PRESS RELEASE FRIDGE BAR-BRIXTON THE LINK TO THE YOUTUBE VIDEO: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=-QJph-xQ- RQ Mr Ralph Daley is the former co-owner of the Fridge Bar in Brixton. Mr Daley is not a bouncer as reported in media reports. Mr Daley is a businessman. Mr Daley has been in business for over twenty years. Mr Daley is a prolific letter writer and hereby instructs me to furnish you with the facts of the incident to which he was convicted for Violent Disorder on Friday 18 January 2008 . Mr Daley was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment. BACKGROUND Mr Daley wrote to the South London Press on 14th November 2006 in response to an article published a week prior. Mr Daley wrote using the pseudonym Rodney Ramdeo . Mr Daley deemed it necessary to use a pseudonym for the following reasons. Firstly, as one of the few black club owners in Brixton and the most outspoken in his criticism of some elements within Lambeth police. Mr Daley is a prolific letter and understood that writing in his name would bring unnecessary attention to himself and his business. Secondly since the pernicious new Licensing Legislation came into force the onus of the prevention of crime was shifted from the police to venue owners. In simple terms it means that should an incident happen, not only inside your venue but within the vicinity, as a business owner you are left with the threat of closure. All reports of disorderly behaviour, sometimes life-threatening behaviour are weighed heavily against you. Notwithstanding, the Fridge Bar, up until the incident on 26 November 2006 had a impeccable safety record, as submitted at a Lambeth licensing review hearing, by the police barrister held on Tuesday 23 October 2007. The article printed in the SLP to which Mr Daley responded was one where the police said that doormen should ‘do more to tackle gunmen’. This is highly irregular and inconsistent when the police’s own procedures and guidelines state that unarmed police officers cannot and must not engage in firearm situations without the mobilisation of ARV’s (armed response vehicles). So whilst the polices’ own guidelines stipulate this, it is expected that doormen not only do the job of trained firearm officers, but door staff and venue owners should in fact do the job that the police themselves cannot and will not do. It is against that backdrop that Mr Daley seeks to present the facts of the incident. FACTS OF THE INCIDENT On the morning of 27 November 2006 at around 3:15am Mr Daley was on the pavement when he heard a disturbance, shouting and clanging coming from the direction of the Mass Club. Mr Daley saw a group of white males shouting and aiming missiles toward what looked like Babalou, the club adjacent to the Mass Club. Mr Daley walked over with his staff out of professional courtesy to assist the manager Mick Kellas whom he had known for some 5 years. There was no security outside the Mass Club. The security had decamped. Mr Daley instructed his marketing manager Phoenix to call the police. Mr Daley and his staff walked over toward Babalou. When Mr Daley and others got to the stairs of the venue he saw security railings at the bottom of the stairwell. From CCTV footage taken by the Mass Club security system, which, incidentally the police disclosed as unused material, Mr Daley is seen with his hands behind his back in an unthreatening manner. Mr Daley and others did not engage the white males who were chanting very serious racist taunts and threats at Mr Daley and his staff. Insp. Martell who viewed the CCTV within the Mass club and said it was an attack by 9 men against 1. It is also accepted that a doorman from the Mass club received head injuries as a result of being hit on the head with a bottle. When Mr Daley attended to assist the staff at the Mass & Babalou club he stood still with his hands behind his back almost motionless. Mr Daley did not react to the vile taunts. Mr Daley’s actions were not the actions of someone ‘spoiling’ for a fight! It was never challenged that these men were indeed racist or indeed that they had savagely attacked a black male within the Mass club causing him injuries that Insp. Martell and the London Ambulance Service agreed needed hospital attention. Even though the white males said they would return motioning like a gun. Mr Daley believed it to be pure bravado. Infact Mr Daley went as far as saying that one out of every three or four hundred people ever return. Mr Daley returned to the Fridge Bar. The white males can then be seen moving in a threatening manner toward a black member of public at which point they surround him and threaten him with being shot because he was a ‘****’. That black male sought to take refuge at the Fridge Bar as he deemed there would be safety in numbers. It is at this time around 4.15 that Mr Daley notices that the same group of men who threatened to come back did indeed come back. Only this time some of them were ‘hooded up’ concealing their identity. They have weapons in their hands. Mr Daley and staff chase them away. The white males hold, what the Hon. Judge Philpot described as, a ‘war council’ on the corner of Porden Road . Two white males were captured on CCTV one of whom was appearing to conceal a firearm. Mr Daley instructs the police to be called. Mr Daley returns to the Fridge Bar. Mr Daley saw that the group of males advancing again toward that Fridge Bar and crucially, it is at this point that Mr Daley armed himself with a metal pole taken from the cloakroom. A second chase ensued and in that chase the white male who said’ do you wanna get shot’ tripped on the kerb and fell to the floor. This man who fell to the floor was surrounded and quickly patted down and found to have no weapons. When the prosecution opened the case the court was told that Mr Daley had chased a man thought to be Mr. Koonjean who had fallen to the ground, whilst running away, was set upon and savagely attacked. We know this not to be true as can be seen from CCTV footage. This was the premise of the prosecution case. Mr Daley was confronted with the live and direct threat of being shot and or seriously injured, yet Mr Daley’s behaviour was still restrained. Mr Daley’s actions were not that of someone ‘wanting to teach a lesson, bent on exacting revenge’ as asserted by the prosecution. Immediately to the left Mr Daley a white male was advancing toward him with his hands concealed. At this point Mr Mallefroy approached the man we now know to be Mr Koonjean, from his blind side right. Mr Daley heard the shout ‘gun gun’ and Mr Mallefroy tackled Mr Koonjean to the floor. Mr Daley could not see what was in Mr Koonjean ’s hand and he struck him 4 times on his legs for him to release what he had in his hands. Mr Koonjean was rendered unconscious by the blows reigned on him by Mr Mallefroy . On closer examination of the CCTV it can be seen that Mr Reid was stamping on Mr Koonjean\'s forearms for him to release what he had in his hands. Mr Reid retrieved a long chain with a knife on the end of it. Mr Daley and others believed that Mr Koonjean had a firearm and defended themselves accordingly. One cannot weigh to the nicety of the amount of force used under those fast moving life threatening circumstances. Despite calling the police regarding the return of the ‘violent racist hooligans’ as described by Hon. Judge Philpot. Mr Daley and his staff were treated as the aggressors. Armed police arrived first? Why? PC Grey said that when he heard the sound of metal on concrete on the Monday he thought that it was a gun and on that basis he did not want to approach Stephenson & Baker. What was his premise? Was he told that there was the possibility that were used in the incident the day before? An order was given the order to swab hands of the arrested Fridge Bar staff but that three experienced police officers could not remember who gave them the order to do so? The swabbing of hands is to primarily find gun residue. Why did they do that in this case? Mr Daley is guilty only of believing Mr Koonjean who proclaimed that he had a gun and gestured as if he had a gun. Images were captured showing at least two of the white males with what appears to be a gun. Notwithstanding had the police pursued the white males after the incident at the mass club, Mr Daley would not have been put in a position where he had to fight for his life. Mr Daley’s business was 10 minutes or so from closing. It does not make sense to suggest that a violent disorder would be initiated so close to the end of the night? You might, also find it interesting that Mr Daley writes to the local newspaper under a pseudonym lamenting the fact that he and his staff are facing the threat of ‘terrorism’ from gunmen and the apparent inactivity of the police. Mr Daley sent a letter to the South London Press newspaper on the 7th November 2006 which was published on the 14th November 2006 . This is 12 days before the incident on 26th November 2006 . These are not the actions of a thug but a local businessman who is concerned at the threat to his staff and his business. CONCLUSION Mr Daley has furnished you with the facts of the case in order to satisfy your journalistic curiosity. How is it in the 21stcentury that the police can allow white racist thugs to get way with seriously attacking a black man and nothing comes of it. However, the police at the behest of a senior ranking officer saw fit to pursue Mr Daley for attempted GBH and Violent Disorder despite knowing the facts of the case. The entire case and media reports have been construed as a racist witch hunt and a gross character assassination of the Highest Order. Institutional racism is RIFE and the events of these past days have highlighted that fact even more. Should you wish to write the truth and pay homage to your profession Mr Daley will be willing to furnish you with all material. THE LINK TO THE YOU TUBE VIDEO: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=-QJph-xQ-
Though I do not condone the beating that the white thug got, I do also feel that Ralph Daley is a hero and I'd shake his hand!! From what I have read about what happened Ralph and his workers were, without a doubt provoked. Many black men/women on a daily basis 'ignore' the constant jibes and prejudices they get from white people and sometimes, being human we can snap and lose it, some worse than others. Sadly in a moment of madness and sheer provocation the men at the Fridge Bar had had enough.

Surely some of you writing who are against what happened can see that? Are you really so shortsighted? Some of the black posters seem castrated from the fact, that one of their own was racial abused. When will such an assault happen to you, because it will, no matter how suppressed.

To end, how can Chief Superintendent Sharon Rowe say that Ralph and his men created the problem? HAS SHE NOT BEEN LISTENING, OBVIOUSLY NOT. THE PROBLEM WAS CAUSED WHEN THOSE WHITE THUGS DECIDED TO GET DRUNK AND THEN HURL RACIST SLURS AT BLACK PEOPLE, LIKE THEY SO OFTEN DO WHEN DRUNK.



ichhasseignorate leute wie mark, Brixton says...
11:54pm Tue 12 Feb 08

Mark wrote:
I used to think films like Mad Max were stupid but it seems like the people frequenting \\\\\\\"The Fridge\\\\\\\" and similar venues are from some sub-human culture. Why can\\\\\\\'t people go out for an evening without worrying about \\\\\\\"bait\\\\\\\", beatings and security. If these places attract scum, the sooner they are all closed the better!
I cannot believe that you are so ignorant of the world around you. Were you been born with a golden spoon in your mouth? Most likely. Most people in this city were not. Young people have to walk the streets of London every day scared of what is going to happen to them. Some choose refuge in gangs, may be not highly moral yet often safer than standing up for yourself as we all know. I can hear you voicing your disapproval, suprise surprise but then it seems so obvious you never had to deal with that kind of situation. Many doorstaff are constantly threatened with knifes and guns and as we well know in terms of death rate security work is right up there. I realise you do not understand why people do security work, it is certainly not something you would do or indeed put up with. You most likely presume that the people doing that kind of work are stupid low lifes anyway. Again how ignorant yet when they save your stupid skin they are what do you call it 'salt of the earth'. Fact is; a group of white man attacked various premises and people at the mass club, Babalou and a nearby off licence. Police had been alerted but did not turn up second time arround and did little if anything the first time. On returning the group of white males shouted and gestured that they had weapons. (If this had happend to you, I am pretty positive you would have shat your pants at this very point.) It was believed at the time that the person seen in the video had a weapon and staff accordingly dealt with the situation. If you took the time to look at the video footage properly and stop patting yourself on the back for having such a moral high ground, you will see that Mr Reid is not stamping the 'victims' head but instead kicking his arm and pulling at a string that had been let down his trouses to conceal a shaft with a knife. (This is to hide weapons from stupid security staff intend on protecting idiots like yourself.)You will also see that Mr Daley is only hitting one one side of the supposed 'victim' body, the left again where it was believed he was hidding a weapon.
Now whilst I can see that to the simple minded the footage may appear to be straightfoward and the headlines are as per usual not about the truth but about the numbers of issues sold, I can only say; look at the footage, is in slow motion. The supposed victim, who was in a gang of at least another 7 males was according to the police to scared to testify. This obviously has nothing to do with the fact that he has a criminal record or that he only received minor injuries despite of the 'severe' and 'barbaric' 'beating' that he went through.
Moreoever, Lambeth police have been trying to close down the Fridge bar for some time. I believe as do others, that this is due to the fact the Fridge Bar is the only central Brixton venue left that attracts a majority of black clientele and is in part owned by a black person. Most disturbing of all however must be the duality of the system.
It seems quite okay for officers to shoot dead an innocent man such as Charles de Menedez, who did not taunt or threaten anybody, yet waiting for police assistance doorstaff who aim to disarm a man who reportatly threatened to have a gun and shhot them, are being penalised and sentenced to prison for actually protecting not only themselves but **** like you Mark.

Anon, Streatham says...
11:17am Wed 13 Feb 08

Very glad that wannabe gangster ralph daley is behind bars where he belongs!
He is just a thug that has been getting away with extreme violence for decades. well his time is up.
I hope he gets set upon in prison by 4 men; one that stamps repetedly on his head, another that punches him repeatedly in the face until he is unconscious, another that beats him with a base ball bat and another that beats him with a metal pole until it BUCKLES!
18 months... not enough at all!
18 years still not enough. He should get life for attempted MURDER !

Emerald, Earth says...
5:08pm Thu 14 Feb 08

jade wrote:
i was there that night, i was thrown out the club along with the rest of the boys there were about 12 of us, this was not a racial attack. one of the boys involved was black himself!!! and one asian boy. the rest were white, and yeh we were all shouting abuse but the bouncers were giving it back, it was drunken talk and the bouncers pride clashing. the bouncers took it 2 far this time. and they will get whats coming to them. now we know there names...
Grow up Jade, U silly little girl.

DC, London says...
7:07pm Thu 14 Feb 08

Yes, you are all correct, but if you wan't the truth check this new and unseen website. http://cosmos.bcst.y
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A R U, London says...
11:14am Wed 20 Feb 08

This is also why the lads should be freed, to watch the video, write this addres in your URL
http://news.sky.com/
skynews/article/0,,3
0100-1305446,00.html
?f=rss

Ricky, London says...
6:13am Fri 22 Feb 08

This is also why the lads should be freed, to watch the video, write this addres in your URL
http://news.sky.com/

skynews/article/0,,3

0100-1305446,00.html

?f=rss


"Thugs stamped on victims head"
Yes, quite right! One of the Fridge Bar staff stamped on victims head! I was there the night of the savage attack.

Ralph Daley should get an extended sentence for not telling authorities where his coward brother is hiding!

Anyone with information about whereabouts of the outstanding attacker should call Lambeth CID on 020 8649 2119 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

Aldith Mesquitta, London says...
12:59pm Sat 15 Mar 08

I think most of the posters on this site need to look up EMMETT TILL on the net and then maybe they will understand where all this anger, hate and frustration comes from. Again I do not condone those men's actions but I understand it.

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