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Boy tells court: 'I've just stabbed someone'
Exclusive By Gemma Wheatley

A teenage thug brazenly walked into Croydon's youth court this morning to announce he had just stabbed a gang rival who was due to appear before the bench.

The shocking confession came minutes after his 16-year-old adversary was stabbed under the arm while walking through the Fairfield Halls car park at around 10.20am today.

The attacker left his victim, who it is thought was due to appear in court on gang related charges, with a punctured lung before running towards the courts in Barclay Road.

He then sauntered into the building and was overheard by staff confessing to knifing the teenager. He then ran out of the building, jumped on a bicycle and rode off up the road before turning into nearby Alytre Road.

It is thought CCTV cameras in the magistrates court complex filmed him walking into the building. The tapes have been passed to police.

The victim made his own way to Mayday Hospital for treatment.

A spokesman for Croydon Police said: "Police were called on Wednesday at 10.21 am to the road outside Fairfield Hall, Croydon, to reports of a stabbing.

"London Ambulance Service was called but there was no victim at the scene.

"Police spoke to a south London Hospital who confirmed a 16-year-old boy suffering a stab wound under the arm had made his way to the hospital. His injuries are not believed to be life threatening.

"It is believed the suspect is a young black man, about 5ft tall, wearing a jacket with a hood who was seen to ride off on a pedal cycle in the direction of East Croydon station.

Anyone with information should call 020 8649 0090.

A spokesman for the Courts Service said: "The victim was due to appear before the youth court.

"Shortly after the incident another young man briefly entered the youth court reception area.

"Croydon Magistrates' Court's CCTV cameras caught footage of the person believed to be the attacker outside the court and the film has been passed on to the police.

"HMCS is taking the incident very seriously and will continue to assist the police with their investigation."

3:48pm Wednesday 26th March 2008

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Posted by: Spare the Rod, Safe Dulwich on 8:20am Thu 27 Mar 08
This child needs understanding,did anyone consider his needs? He may well have come from a broken home been bullied at school or forced to do it under peer pressure. At least he had the guts to confess his deeds to a court knowing full well he may have been arrested and sentenced to community service. It may have been a cry for help. On the other hand he could possibly be just stupid.
Posted by: j probert, bristol on 10:09am Thu 27 Mar 08
tocarry a knife you intend to use it. my son whos is now 27 and daughter whos 25 cae from broken homes they have good jobs work hard and look after other pele so no excuse for carrying knifes or guns
Posted by: once a liberal, london on 12:36pm Thu 27 Mar 08
I feel sorry for the people who have to live amongst these sub-humans
Posted by: Alison, croydon on 1:53pm Thu 27 Mar 08
This child needs understanding,did anyone consider his needs? He may well have come from a broken home been bullied at school or forced to do it under peer pressure.

What this child needs is discipline! And a prison sentence! I came from a broken home and was bullied at school, but I didn't go round knifing other people!!!!! It's time we stopped making excuses and started making examples!
Posted by: b on 4:42pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Why waste tax payers money on court hearings and prison,
let them get on with it and kill each other then throw then both on the council rubbish tip.
Posted by: What are we paying for?, Croydon on 5:46pm Thu 27 Mar 08
A day in the life of Croydon Police, clear up rate 0.0000014% Average response time 25 minutes if A1 grade emergency
Posted by: Kes, Upper Norwood on 8:31pm Thu 27 Mar 08
What's new? We're living in New Labour's England. Not to worry though because overall crime is decreasing. Or, more accurately, people are increasingly not bothering to report it.
Posted by: j probert on 8:56pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Alison wrote:
This child needs understanding,did anyone consider his needs? He may well have come from a broken home been bullied at school or forced to do it under peer pressure.
What this child needs is discipline! And a prison sentence! I came from a broken home and was bullied at school, but I didn't go round knifing other people!!!!! It's time we stopped making excuses and started making examples!
here here nor did my children excuse after excuse there is no reason for any one try to kill some one else
Posted by: Arfur Towcrate, Staffycher on 10:14pm Thu 27 Mar 08
j probert wrote:
Alison wrote:
This child needs understanding,did anyone consider his needs? He may well have come from a broken home been bullied at school or forced to do it under peer pressure.
What this child needs is discipline! And a prison sentence! I came from a broken home and was bullied at school, but I didn't go round knifing other people!!!!! It's time we stopped making excuses and started making examples!
here here nor did my children excuse after excuse there is no reason for any one try to kill some one else
Er - ever heard of "irony"?
Posted by: E Powell, Croydon on 10:43pm Thu 27 Mar 08
What this child needs is discipline! And a prison sentence! I came from a broken home and was bullied at school, but I didn't go round knifing other people!!!!! examples!

Me too!
Posted by: Simon, South Croydon on 1:10am Fri 28 Mar 08
It is time people accepted that this is all down to a breakdown in the family unit. Strong parents and the involvement of grandparents to aid in discipline makes a massive difference.

The modern world is all about excuses. No-one is stupid, no-one meant to do it, it wasn't their fault, they have a learning disability, they are from a broken home...

All of this pansy left wing do-gooder talk has got us to where we are today, just a reflection of the US, perhaps 10 years behind.

Is there an answer, yes. It will never happen though.
Posted by: Graham on 6:56am Fri 28 Mar 08
It's interesting that the reporter didn't mention the skin colour of his yob. Or is it politically incorrect to do so these days?
I will put a VERY SAFE BET on him being black...This has nothing to do with normal moral breakdowns of society. but more to do with this countries fear of stampng down on the unacceptable behaviour ofthe immigrant population of this country for fear of being branded 'racist'
Posted by: D, Know Croydon well...... on 8:09am Fri 28 Mar 08
Here here to all sensible comments, I have lived in Croydon all my life and now 35 I wonder what this area is coming too, I used to be out till all hours in Croydon and I could come out of a club at 2am in the morning and not have to be constantly looking over my back for fear of being mugged or in this day in age its called Robbery for what its worth the sentence doesn't get better. Now my only concern is I have 2 young children and I am ashamed to say when they reach the age where they can go out it will be my job to ferry them about pick them up at all hours just because Croydon is no longer a safe place....... Anyone out there interested in my comments, MP's, police lol.
Posted by: OB on 8:49am Fri 28 Mar 08
My son comes from broken home as his mum and me split up. He is 11 and last week told on a lad who he saw steal £50 from a youth club worker in the youth club. The other lad is older and threantened my son if he told but he went ahead and told. I'm so proud of him for 2 things, standing up to a bully and knowing right from wrong. Oh by the way the other lad doesn't come from a broken home and I know which one I'd rather be the father of. Cheers wee man, love you.
Posted by: Croyboy on 9:33am Fri 28 Mar 08
Graham wrote:
It's interesting that the reporter didn't mention the skin colour of this yob.

No, he didn't - but then it's really no longer necessary, is it? ...We all know.

If you go to:
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/england/londo
n/7317906.stm
you'll find a list inserted in the article of the victims of (mainly) stabbings this year in the capital - and these are only the
fatalities. A quick perusal will show there are few names there which hail from the shires of England, and it's also a "very safe bet" - to quote Graham - that the perpetrators were of the same origins.
Posted by: alan, Croydon on 12:25pm Fri 28 Mar 08
I have recently moved to Croydon from Scotland, and I must say it is a complete s**t hole. Everything shi**y about Britain is present on the streets of Croudon, especially the dog-s**t. The mad bible bashing ranting west indian woman, the tiger tiger man, the big issue gypsies, the hoodies, the asylum seekers, the druggies, oh and yes the wonderful educational institute which is Croydon College. Virtually every day there is some sort of incident in the town centre involving thugs of some sort. This is a lawless, armpit of civilisation, all the decent white people have left and gone to new zealand, and they are being replaced by racist polish money grabbers or even worse, south africans. Croydon needs to be bulldozed, even this would not be enough, it should be turned upside down and sulpher rained upon it as was sodom and gommorah to punish the wickedness of the inhabitants. The council has given up and is now purely interested in making as much money from parking tickets as it can, all the schools have wardens staked out to ambush the poor parents who are picking up their kids from drug/crime ridden inner city schools. The roads ar e a joke the traffic layout is specifically designed to kill cyclists and pedestrians (have you seen the crazy junction near the trams line across george street, there is at least one person getting hit by a bus/car/tram every day. On top of the other misery, Croydon town planning has made the entire centre into a hurricane zone and even better design means any heavy rain fall guarantees the underpass to be flooded. THERE IS NOTHING GOOD ABOUT CROYDON...The women are wretched fag choking pramfaces the blokes are shaven headed chavs.
Posted by: terry, watfod on 1:10pm Fri 28 Mar 08
alan wrote:
I have recently moved to Croydon from Scotland, and I must say it is a complete s**t hole. Everything shi**y about Britain is present on the streets of Croudon, especially the dog-s**t. The mad bible bashing ranting west indian woman, the tiger tiger man, the big issue gypsies, the hoodies, the asylum seekers, the druggies, oh and yes the wonderful educational institute which is Croydon College. Virtually every day there is some sort of incident in the town centre involving thugs of some sort. This is a lawless, armpit of civilisation, all the decent white people have left and gone to new zealand, and they are being replaced by racist polish money grabbers or even worse, south africans. Croydon needs to be bulldozed, even this would not be enough, it should be turned upside down and sulpher rained upon it as was sodom and gommorah to punish the wickedness of the inhabitants. The council has given up and is now purely interested in making as much money from parking tickets as it can, all the schools have wardens staked out to ambush the poor parents who are picking up their kids from drug/crime ridden inner city schools. The roads ar e a joke the traffic layout is specifically designed to kill cyclists and pedestrians (have you seen the crazy junction near the trams line across george street, there is at least one person getting hit by a bus/car/tram every day. On top of the other misery, Croydon town planning has made the entire centre into a hurricane zone and even better design means any heavy rain fall guarantees the underpass to be flooded. THERE IS NOTHING GOOD ABOUT CROYDON...The women are wretched fag choking pramfaces the blokes are shaven headed chavs.
Are you saying, you don't like Croydon.
Posted by: terry, watford on 1:13pm Fri 28 Mar 08
It's interesting that the reporter didn't mention the skin colour of his yob.

Yes they did.

"It is believed the suspect is a young black man, about 5ft tall, wearing a jacket with a hood who was seen to ride off on a pedal cycle in the direction of East Croydon station.

No surprise there then.
Posted by: Luke, Croydon on 1:32pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Well said Alan.
What is wrong with the people running this country letting all these yobs in. There should be a rule, the minute one of these SCUMBAGS breaks the law in our country they should be thrown straight back to the country they came from. Its this country look stupid. WHAT A WASTE OF HARD WORKING TAX PAYERS MONEY SUPPORTING SCUM THAT SEEM TO BE TAKING OVER CROYDON.
Posted by: Bob Peel, Croydon on 1:33pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Alan, why did you move here?
Posted by: Kes, Upper Norwood on 2:07pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Alan, why did you move here?

It certainly wasn't for no students' tuition fees, free long-term care for the elderly, discounted prescription charges, pilot scheme for free school meals, the list goes on. All courtesy of the 'Barnett Formula' system of funding for Scotland.
And, remember what happened when London boroughs tried to disperse 'asylum seekers' to Scotland some time back?
Posted by: Sharon, croydon on 6:04pm Fri 28 Mar 08
What is happening to this country! TO begin with whats happening with the schools! I recently left a school in S Croydon, mentioning now names, can't understand how any one can work with these so called children, just abuse and really badly behaved. Yes, it is a shame that majority of them come from awful backgrounds but why are these people still having kid after kid if they cant look after them. Its going to get worse because nothing can be done about it, nothing. Everybodies hands are tide there is no disapline any more.
Posted by: Jameel, da Hood on 6:14pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Hey, iss you dat drives da bruvas to cutin u. u diss us at evry optunity, yeh? Jes look it da commints to dis rtikl, man! Rrrespec.
Posted by: anon, mitcham on 6:15pm Fri 28 Mar 08
hope the police throw away the key when he is caught
Posted by: croalone, Croydon, ADD on 6:28pm Fri 28 Mar 08
terry wrote:
alan wrote: I have recently moved to Croydon from Scotland, and I must say it is a complete s**t hole. Everything shi**y about Britain is present on the streets of Croudon, especially the dog-s**t. The mad bible bashing ranting west indian woman, the tiger tiger man, the big issue gypsies, the hoodies, the asylum seekers, the druggies, oh and yes the wonderful educational institute which is Croydon College. Virtually every day there is some sort of incident in the town centre involving thugs of some sort. This is a lawless, armpit of civilisation, all the decent white people have left and gone to new zealand, and they are being replaced by racist polish money grabbers or even worse, south africans. Croydon needs to be bulldozed, even this would not be enough, it should be turned upside down and sulpher rained upon it as was sodom and gommorah to punish the wickedness of the inhabitants. The council has given up and is now purely interested in making as much money from parking tickets as it can, all the schools have wardens staked out to ambush the poor parents who are picking up their kids from drug/crime ridden inner city schools. The roads ar e a joke the traffic layout is specifically designed to kill cyclists and pedestrians (have you seen the crazy junction near the trams line across george street, there is at least one person getting hit by a bus/car/tram every day. On top of the other misery, Croydon town planning has made the entire centre into a hurricane zone and even better design means any heavy rain fall guarantees the underpass to be flooded. THERE IS NOTHING GOOD ABOUT CROYDON...The women are wretched fag choking pramfaces the blokes are shaven headed chavs.
Are you saying, you don't like Croydon.
HAHAHAHAH that killed me!
Posted by: Kes, Upper Norwood on 9:50pm Fri 28 Mar 08
"Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime" Now who said that and whatever happened to him? Bringing "democracy" to Iraq?
Posted by: What is happening?, London on 10:43am Sat 29 Mar 08
Jameel wrote:
Hey, iss you dat drives da bruvas to cutin u. u diss us at evry optunity, yeh? Jes look it da commints to dis rtikl, man! Rrrespec.
What the hell stone did you crawl out from? Go back to your chav life and leave the sensible comments to people with a brain cell, which is one more than you. Respect??? You can't even spell it, let alone earn it. Ye gods, what are we breeding in this country. No-one deserves to be 'cut'. It's called the law, you retard. Get a life and learn to speak English properly.
Posted by: j probert on 8:33pm Sat 29 Mar 08
Graham wrote:
It's interesting that the reporter didn't mention the skin colour of his yob. Or is it politically incorrect to do so these days? I will put a VERY SAFE BET on him being black...This has nothing to do with normal moral breakdowns of society. but more to do with this countries fear of stampng down on the unacceptable behaviour ofthe immigrant population of this country for fear of being branded 'racist'
here here never a better word spoken
Posted by: j probert on 8:43pm Sat 29 Mar 08
What is happening? wrote:
Jameel wrote: Hey, iss you dat drives da bruvas to cutin u. u diss us at evry optunity, yeh? Jes look it da commints to dis rtikl, man! Rrrespec.
What the hell stone did you crawl out from? Go back to your chav life and leave the sensible comments to people with a brain cell, which is one more than you. Respect??? You can't even spell it, let alone earn it. Ye gods, what are we breeding in this country. No-one deserves to be 'cut'. It's called the law, you retard. Get a life and learn to speak English properly.
you have said the best thingon here i have read weldone
Posted by: Jameel, da Hood on 7:37pm Sun 30 Mar 08
Ow **** u fink u is betta dan me Whatishappening? Wot sorta tag is dat anyhow? I is a british citizen an i AINT chav, mofo. Dere u dunnit again u dissed me again init. Anyway do you crawl out from a stone? Looks 2 me laik u need 2 learn english mofo.
Posted by: John Sergeant, Croydon on 7:48pm Sun 30 Mar 08
Yes, "What is happening", how DO you crawl out from a stone? I know Jameel and his English is excellent and most of his spare time is spent doing charitable works. He obviously prefers to use a patois on this site but that's no reason to be rude to him; you should be ashamed of yourself.
Posted by: Kes, Upper Norwood on 8:44pm Sun 30 Mar 08
Why does he prefer to use a "patois" on this site? Says a lot, don't you think? No wonder this country's going down tne plug-hole with responses such as yours.
Posted by: John Sergeant, Croydon on 9:11pm Sun 30 Mar 08
Kes, would you be kind enough to explain how you think the country's going down the plug-hole?
Posted by: Kes, Upper Norwood on 9:39pm Sun 30 Mar 08
Just take a look around you- or do you live in cuckoo land? I assume you live in south London?
Posted by: Kes, Upper Norwood on 9:42pm Sun 30 Mar 08
The Guardian is running a poll on fear of crime at the moment. These are real people who are responding!
Posted by: Alan, London on 10:41pm Sun 30 Mar 08
Jameel from 'da hood' is obviously some white person pretending to speak in patois to make black people look idiotic and as if they all talk like that. If it were a real person, as if they would even be on here making comments!!
Posted by: rebecca, croydon on 11:39pm Sun 30 Mar 08
Please do not refer to the rubbish that Jameel from 'da hood' is saying as patois. It is not and is highly disrespectful. H e is clearly an idiotic, small minded person who thinks that the original issue is funny, which it most certainly is not.
Posted by: What is happening?, London on 11:48pm Sun 30 Mar 08
Jameel wrote:
Ow **** u fink u is betta dan me Whatishappening? Wot sorta tag is dat anyhow? I is a british citizen an i AINT chav, mofo. Dere u dunnit again u dissed me again init. Anyway do you crawl out from a stone? Looks 2 me laik u need 2 learn english mofo.
You are hopefully and very sadly just someone having a pathetic wind up as I cannot believe anyone would think such complete and utter rubbish and that is being polite. As for threatening me, go away little boy and come back when you are a grown up. Save your patois for the playground - "You get me bruv ??" I was bought up with manners, morals and integrity, look them up in the dictionary. I've 'dissed' you have I ? Tough, you haven't earnt my respect and certainly don't deserve it, I feel sorry for yet another person being stabbed, if you don't like that, I really don't care. And 'mofo', did your school teach you to speak to people like that, or did you not turn up that day. Go away loser, I'm not afraid of you wannabe plastics...go back to wherever stinking cesspit you came from and be quiet if you can't speak properly.
Posted by: Croyboy on 9:06am Mon 31 Mar 08
Okay people, calm down. I'm sure "Jameel, da Hood" is a White wind-up - but it's
not me, in case anyone was having uncharitable suspicions.
Actually, on the occasion of my seeing Jameel's original post, I wasn't able to identify the language concerned as English: I thought it was Klingon!
Posted by: Just an observation, London on 10:14am Mon 31 Mar 08
John Sergeant wrote:
Yes, "What is happening", how DO you crawl out from a stone? I know Jameel and his English is excellent and most of his spare time is spent doing charitable works. He obviously prefers to use a patois on this site but that's no reason to be rude to him; you should be ashamed of yourself.
Just to point out, Jameel is not speaking patios. Patios is a form of broken french, not english.
Posted by: trasie, m on 10:36am Mon 31 Mar 08
Anyway, I'd just like to say that anyone who carries a knife is a coward. Any one of us can stab someone else how does that make anyone feel proud. I hope they catch the little ****.
Posted by: Leroy Wesley, Croydon tip on 1:29pm Mon 31 Mar 08
Croyboy wrote, "..I wasn't able to identify the language concerned as English: I thought it was Klingon!"

More like the jabberings of the severely brain injured methinks.
Posted by: Croyboy on 3:51pm Mon 31 Mar 08
"Just an observation" wrote:
Just to point out, Jameel is not speaking patios. Patios is a form of broken french, not english.

Here's another observation, "Just an observation": "patios" are paved outdoor areas which adjoin houses. ...Whereas "patois" is "the dialect of the common people of a region, differing in various respects from the standard language of the rest of the country", or "the jargon or informal speech used by a particular social group", thus it is not necessarily connected to French, in contrast, of course, to "pidgin English", which is a variety of the tongue of Shakespeare. I hesitate to say that Jameel is affecting (if John Sergeant is to be believed) the latter, as I've heard far more elegant prose in pidgin.

Posted by: Shirleys temple, Bedlam on 11:34am Tue 8 Apr 08
Croyboy
Yeah!Well if your so clever then why did you spell pidgeon wrong?
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